Not and have your motors in parallel I believe There's a manifold involved below the stand pipe if I remember correctly and the only place I found the right vacuum motors was from a dealer. You might be able to run them in series or build a manifold. I also wonder if you would have to pull the heater as the room in the motor compartment is at a premium.A lot of things in that machine design are strictly proprietary and only marketed by the dealer network. The toggle switches aren't the best either. Can you post a picture of the machine's guts?
Hose length on portables
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Nate The Great
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And don't listen to Nate, he's just a young buck rookie.
55yo ain’t young.. Man I miss those young buck days..
How old are you Nate? Last picture I saw of you, you looked 30years old
Kenny Hayes
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If you’ve gotta use a porty, hopefully you can garner up enough to get a good one. Porty work is hard enough without all that. I don’t care how old you are.
Kenny Hayes
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If you’ve gotta use a porty, hopefully you can garner up enough to get a good one. Porty work is hard enough without all that. I don’t care how old you are.
Nate The Great
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Good genes my guy, Asian blood.. I was born into this business..
My body is 39, my soul is 55..
Just to clarify your saying 100 feet then attach the booster then 50 more to wand??
What is a little giant ??
Sorry I was away for a bit. Tomorrow I will be where I store my machine and I will post a picture
Papa John
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It is advised you turn on the booster before the main portable.
This might be because the main portable will cause the booster vac motor to rotate before it is powered up. maybe this will create electricity or rotate the booster vac fan in the wrong direction?
but I'm only speculating.
Kenny Hayes
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Propane heater. This particular one is on a dolly so you can roll it along with the unit.
Cleanworks
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A big dwarf.
Kenny Hayes
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Canadian!
Kenny Hayes
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So, would a Bane be a little dwarf
Cleanworks
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The covers over the vac motors look a little oddball compared to most units. They are in parallel. They are probably only 2-stage as you wouldn't have enough power to run anything bigger with heater in there. It may be possible to ditch the heater and install 3-stage vac motors but I can't tell how difficult it would be without seeing the manifolds with the motors in place. If you did that, you would wire one vac with your pump and the other separately.
I forgot to mention that I had to get the upgraded pump motor. The original one was way thinner, this is almost the same size as my treadmill motor. What do you mean by oddball because I always had a weird feeling about this unit. I did buy it brand new from a jondon location so maybe this had a issue that they fixed before selling it
Kenny Hayes
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So, are you getting into residential cleaning, commercial, or whatever comes your way?
I think that would determine what you do with that machine if anything at all?
I think that would determine what you do with that machine if anything at all?
Cleanworks
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It appears that there are black plastic covers over the vac motors. Most machines, the motors are exposed.
Use one of these pumps to free up room. They last longer, are way cheaper too.The plastic manifold might fit the 3 stage motors, but I had no luck finding a match for the vacuum motors' They had to be ordered from the supplier.
Jack Zipper Zerkie
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Willy if he buys a EDIC it has 2-3 stage vacs 500 psi and a exterior heater that hangs on back of unit . Great unit had to take up stairs only down side
Luky
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If you thinking of running a 25' vacuum hose, go with a 25' solution hose. If you have a 50-footer lying around, use it. You're not losing as much pressure with a distance compared to a vacuum loss, where CFM and lift are going to be lacking, because dual 2-stage motors are barely enough. If you had dual 3-stage motors, I'd recommend upgrading to a 2" vacuum hose, you'd get slightly better results even with a reducer since Ninja doesn't have a 2" vacuum port We can debate CFM vs Lift ratio based on hose diameter forever, but if you want to start, do what's best for you. If you have plenty of vacuum hoses, cut a custom length, let's say 15', this should give you a better suction.
P.S. I use a 2" vac hose on Edic Endeavour( 30') with good results ( twice a year
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Luky
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Yes, true, but it also costs money and sometimes you just want to start with whatever you have on hand.
I've looked and I can't find pictures of my bucket booster experiment. I mounted a 3 stage motor on to the lid of my machine. It wasn't pretty but it gave me plenty of air flow. I'll dig around some more to see if I can find it.
Cleanworks
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I have the Steambrite version. Works quite well. I need to change the hose Barb to 2 inch to maximize the air flow. Adds a 3-stage vacuum in parallel to the 2 existing 2 stage vacuums. I would feel comfortable running 50-75 feet of hose if I had to clean a townhouse or 2 story condo. I would run 2 inch hose all the way or with a short, maybe 10 foot whip of 1.5 inch hose.
I haven't seen that one. Let me see if I can dig up pictures of the ninja booster I had.
