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Same bunch making the same statements, not one doing any testing for themselves, all preach they know something, not a one a trinity user, all opinions, all stuck in the past.
 
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Same bunch making the same statements, not one doing any testing for themselves, all preach they know something, not a one a trinity user, all opinions, all stuck in the past.
Most of us are your customers John. I'm sure many of your new customers will be in our shoes when you are promoting "the next BIG thing".
Being called names for asking questions you won't answer.
 

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Get that dummy Joel on here and he can show us all of his stoopit videos .

Especially the one where he scrubs his garage floor and compares two encap shampoos.

What a moron!

And I think he is one of your TrInItY KLOWNS.
 
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How did you know Reeko about my sudden onset of a ROID yesterday?

Ran out of prilosec and was taking too many rollaids and it blocked me up.

So I text my wife at work and tell her to stop off at walgreems and pick me up some ROID creme.

I guess she didn't know what I meant and came home with a pint of Chunky Monkey ice cream.

Well in desperation chunky monkey was slathered all over my behind.

Cool and refreshing is all I can say.

Multiple uses for this outstanding product..................kind of like fels napha?

Absolutely true story ..........................so in ASSence......................KMA!
 

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Oh my!




Lighten up Frances!:biggrin:

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John G

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LOL, good try Lee, you all tell ME what the machine won't do, you all tell me its limitations, you never wanted to KNOW what it did, you were too busy telling me.
Now, you want an explanation why not tell me from your wisdom what you were talking about when you knew it all?
You try to play this as a discussion? Now?
 
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John, your right I have been lazy in relying on my OPIONS that I have come to after cleaning thousands of carpets with both OP and HWE. And your right I should test for my self. Or just take your word for it.

SO I hired a physicist with a 7000000 IQ, he is going to study for me every carpet cleaning machine/ system on the planet. And tell me what one cleans the best. Only going to cost me $400,000,000.34 ,, A large part of the fee will go in to purchasing every cleaning system for testing. But in the end, I will know the truth. His team of Nazi scientists are working over time on it, results will be turned in at the end of next week.
 

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I find it odd that all you Steam Cleaners have not shown any curiosity or even acknowledged the benefits of being able to test the work you perform . You Steam Cleaners just attack the whole premises of testing without regard to the possible benefits of knowing the truth. It is obvious to me that this topic of testing terrifies you Steam Cleaners. For instance did you know that wet carpet is a breading ground for all that we as cleaners are trying to remediate.
 

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I think just the opposite. They don't see a point in it.

I really don't either or I would have performed the tests long ago. We have the luminometers and the pens. But for what purpose?

We use ATP testing all the time but there is a reason. To validate we did what we said we were set out to do, environmental cleanup, biorecovery.

Carpet cleaning? Why? If the job specifies it I could see that, but just to willie nillie takes samples? Dumbass if you ask me! :oldrolleyes:
 
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I find it odd that all you Steam Cleaners have not shown any curiosity or even acknowledged the benefits of being able to test the work you perform . You Steam Cleaners just attack the whole premises of testing without regard to the possible benefits of knowing the truth. It is obvious to me that this topic of testing terrifies you Steam Cleaners. For instance did you know that wet carpet is a breading ground for all that we as cleaners are trying to remediate.

Mardie, first of all, we are not "Steam" cleaners. I am a carpet cleaner who avidly uses every tool that proves to help do that job, even vlm and OP.

Secondly, we TEST in the real world, extracting TONS of dirt, sludge, and nasty residue in the process. It isn't rocket science, but it isn't smoke and mirrors either.

"The proof is in the pudding"....and the "pudding" is in the waste tank.

I explored atp testing two years ago, and while interesting, it isn't useful for carpet cleaning unless being used to sell to the unsuspecting a tool to defy logic.

I'm sure the newest generation of OP machines are good tools and we WILL buy them for that. However this snakeoil sales pitch is disgusting to the seasoned veterans of this industry. We've seen it before.
 

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I think just the opposite. They don't see a point in it.

I really don't either or I would have performed the tests long ago. We have the luminometers and the pens. But for what purpose?

We use ATP testing all the time but there is a reason. To validate we did what we said we were set out to do, environmental cleanup, biorecovery.

Carpet cleaning? Why? If the job specifies it I could see that, but just to willie nillie takes samples? Dumbass if you ask me! :oldrolleyes:

How do you feel about using masking agents to cover up the odours caused from the growth of bacteria after a wet carpet cleaning ? Is that not the reason Steam Cleaners rely so heavily on odour masking agents ?
 

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Mardie...MARDIE....MARDIE!

Where do you come up with that shit? You do know that Shaw one of the world's largest manufactures of carpet recommends HWE every 12-18 months in order to maintain their warranty.

Plus improper drying with A Cimex, A VS or a Trinity can cause microbial activity. Duh Mardie....just duh! :icon_rolleyes:
 

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You Steam Cleaners just attack the whole premises of testing without regard to the possible benefits of knowing the truth.

why would we do that, Mardie?
Seriously, we're professionals, and by and large the majority here cares about our work as well as giving our custys what they need and/or want



It is obvious to me that this topic of testing terrifies you Steam Cleaners.


Why in the world would we be "terrified" to find a system/method that does better and is CHEAPER to operate :icon_rolleyes:
think about it, Mardie


For instance did you know that wet carpet is a breading ground for all that we as cleaners are trying to remediate.

Mardie, do you know that many of us are able to get drying times the same as your sCampoo box?
Do you know many of us get BETTER dry times than Cimex scrub 'n run using the average of 250-300sf pr gal RTU ecrap solution?


..L.T.A.
 

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