Dolly Llama
Number 5
Mike, is this your idea or one of your BFF whispering in your ear?
..L.T.A.
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Unionized.
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Mikey P
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What does it matter, to you?
FredC
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He wants the traditional benefits
Mikey P
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Dolly Llama
Number 5
'cause I still have butyl in my veins!!
If this is your idea...g'luck.
If it's someone else idea, don't invest more than you can afford to lose
Paul's idea of a franchise is a FAR more workable reality to accomplish the goals you have in mind
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Living The Dream
Member
I spent 21 years in unions. I'm not saying this couldn't work. I just don't see how it could work.
In my experience unions do the bargaining and help negotiate the benefits you listed, but it's the employer and the members that pay into these benefits.
Who are you defining as the employer and who is the member?
Unions are a great thing in the right settings, but they have their Con's also.
I agree 100% that we need some type of standardized education, but I'm not sure this is your answer.
But...I also thought that texting, YouTube, and Facebook were all dumb ideas and look how that turned out.
Never mind that every Janitor is already part of some union. Just what an owner operator needs is some governing body dictating more rules and pricing to them . Mike, what's wrong with you! were you just bored and wanted to stir up some nonsense?
Cleanworks
Moderator
In Detroit you can get them knocked off cheaper.I'm at that age where if that happened, I would just retire.
I grew up in the Detroit area and got to see auto unions from both sides, members and employers. I certainly wouldn't want a union telling me what we can or can't do with our employees. For example, it is VERY hard to terminate someone, even with documented cause!
Ever-Fresh
Member
I would not vote for Communism in any form, to include a Union.
Brian H
Member
Cleanworks
Moderator
Not that you would do that.
SamIam
Member
Someone sucks hard at business if that's all they got.
Have Fred B do a investor class Damons getting fat stacks!
SamIam
Member
Had a sub years ago when we were running 200 sub said we need to unionize.
He was hoping to collect the dues
He was hoping to collect the dues
Dolly Llama
Number 5
reality is, it's not so much for lack of "knowing" the right things to do
It's for lack of "doing" those things we do know
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Mikey P
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SamIam
Member
Can and are, are two different things.
Saigers could cash out and live in Florida cheap.
A lot of it depends on how you live.
I'm down to 3 days a week.
And yes until I get Medicare I'll probably still work.
But that's because I'm physically able.
Gets me out of the house.
Your claim was have nothing but a business worth $30-40 k
If that's all guys have that would suck.
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Mikey P
Administrator
How do you know that?
What if they have 200 or 300k, can you retire on that?
Brian H
Member
That would have been 3 years ago for me. I am thinking about a side gig though when I do finally retire. It's more for something to do though. After the first few weeks of retirement, I think I would go stir crazy with nothing to do.
Mikey P
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SamIam
Member
In Costa Rica
SamIam
Member
Because his mom mobile home is paid for, and all he has is a lot fee and utilities.
Plus if he was a band teacher he might have a little pension there.
Plus soap sales
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SamIam
Member
Technically I could buy a couple acres and a house cash in Tennessee or Kentucky.
Work a part time gig at home Depot
Ps I'm banking on my wife being better off then me someday too.
Lol
It's the best laid plans of mice and men.
Work a part time gig at home Depot
See and staying busy and supplementing retirement isn't bad.
Ps I'm banking on my wife being better off then me someday too.
Lol
It's the best laid plans of mice and men.
Kenny Hayes
Member
What is retirement?? The Bible only mentions it briefly by the way in Numbers. It doesn’t suggest we should retire anywhere else. Retirement means not having to grind daily and still do whatever you want or enjoy.
SamIam
Member
It means when your old your kids take on the family responsibilities.
I just hope I'm not to grumpy like Marty.
I don't want people not to like me!
Joking
Kenny Hayes
Member
I guess I’m there
My girls boss me around
My girls boss me around
Brian H
Member
I'm sure I have a list of projects that I have put off. That's what the first few weeks will look like. Even given that, I will need to have other outside activities.
SamIam
Member
So a union of carpet cleaners?
Pricing structures, retirement account.
Group purchasing power, certified training.
All under a group name?
Will the Stanley ,chemdrys , coits of the world have to hire union workers to perform the services?
Pricing structures, retirement account.
Group purchasing power, certified training.
All under a group name?
Will the Stanley ,chemdrys , coits of the world have to hire union workers to perform the services?
Brian H
Member
The only reason they would be forced to hire union workers is if the customers insisted on it being union workers doing the cleaning. And that will never happen...
Papa John
Lifetime Supportive Member
A smart successful O/O can do all this on his own.
What you are suggesting is giving power to another entity to control your business so you can have these benefits.
A Union would be like having a Boss. Most O/O are too independent (Pig headed) to be hired by anyone as an employee. A union for most cleaners would be an epic fail.
