So Warning or No warning?

[Papa John]

If you are going to be eliminating a position-- do you give the person a 1 or 2 week warning Or just make it an unpleasant surprise?
I'm concerned about the damage an unhappy "LameDuck" could do.

 

[Mikey P]

watch the pro's do it at 22.22

 

[Desk Jockey]

We usually just end it.

Severance pay depends on length of time with us. Most we give none however we have given a week several times and 2 weeks to a few that had been here awhile.

 

[Cleanworks]

Pay him his severance with no warning. Just rip that Band-Aid right off.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Loved that.

Heard Joe several times, always great!

 

[JS41035]

Always fire someone the moment you make the decision. You are asking for anWC claim or worse. I learned this the hard way.

 

[Papa John]

watch the pro's do it at 22.22

Joe is a real Pro with how he runs the "Back of the House"--- (employee management)
Someday when I grow up I'll try to operate like him---

My Fear is-- If I ran my company like I demanded perfection from my employees-- I'd have no employees-- or extremely high turn over.

2016 revenue was about 80k below 2015.
I blamed about 3 other possible causes- but after a test I think I discovered the major cause-- Our CSR was relying on voicemail too much as wasn't answering the calls.

You are asking for a WC claim or worse.

That's what I'm worried about.

no warning. Just rip that Band-Aid right off.

Thanks---that's what I'm going to do.

 

[hogjowl]

Always fire someone the moment you make the decision. You are asking for anWC claim or worse. I learned this the hard way.

Glad you're still hanging around. Thought you'd died.

 

[FB7777]

Yea

More Justin and less Lee


At least I can follow what the kid says

 

[hogjowl]

Giggle

 

[Jimmy L]

He must speak in "tongues"

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I went to a seminar about 300 years ago it seems, and my favorite part went something like this:

"When you get an employee that annoys you so much that you try to find ways to avoid them at the workplace, fire them. Even if you have to pay unemployment, its worth it just to get the burden of them driving you down away from you."

Its almost like the bitter joke that goes:

Question: "Do you know why divorce is so expensive?"

Answer: "Because its worth it"

Pay whatever price you have to and get the bad guys or gals out of your workplace.

Now.

 

[Jimmy L]

I was one of those employees. Hence I knew I had to work for my own self.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

Wow, Jimmy that's probably a great thread idea. I came to the same conclusion after working for goobers.

 

[Lee Stockwell]

not to be confused with peanuts Marty.

 

[The Great Oz]

If you are going to be eliminating a position-- do you give the person a 1 or 2 week warning Or just make it an unpleasant surprise?
I'm concerned about the damage an unhappy "LameDuck" could do.

If it's a performance issue firing should never be a surprise. The employee should know what's expected, given time and coaching to try and measure up, then if not enough improvement dismissed with a "hope you find a better fit for your talents."

If you're downsizing you have to rip the bandage off.

 

[Old Coastie]

"Everyone on the van. NOT so fast there, Shmedlap!"

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I was one of those employees. Hence I knew I had to work for my own self.

When I was old enough to figure out that my father owned a business and all my friends' fathers had jobs, I asked Lee why he started his own business.

He said: "Jim, I got tired of working for people dumber than me, and with that outlook, I'm unemployable. No one in their right mind would hire me."

 

[Desk Jockey]

So true!

 

[hogjowl]

There's no way I'd hire ANY OF YOU IDIOTS!

 

[steve_64]

Back at ya Smarty

 

[Brian H]

I've fired a few employees over the years. The key for me is to just get it done. Don't look for excuses to put it off. As Justin said, when you think it's time, do it!!

I have never allowed an employees to know if I am eliminating their job. Too many bad things can happen while they put in their final days. If you feel real bad about it, pay a 2 week severance.

Oh and it's ALWAYS been a relief when bad apples are gone!! May be a little tough for a few days, but it's so much better knowing that you are making the company better.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Oh and it's ALWAYS been a relief when bad apples are gone!! May be a little tough for a few days, but it's so much better knowing that you are making the company better.

I'm sure you've seen this too Brian: A number of employees will approach you and tell you how glad they are that you let the "bad apple" go. The amount of damage such people do to the morale of the company is not often seen at first, as the good ones tend to "soldier on" and not complain.

It seems though that fellow employees usually see the problems before we do.

 

[Desk Jockey]

The amount of damage such people do to the morale of the company is not often seen at first, as the good ones tend to "soldier on" and not complain.

The work is tough enough without someone bitching and whining the whole time. That's why I would never work with Marty!

 

[JS41035]

Yea

More Justin and less Lee

That was my first marketing slogan.

 

[Mikey P]

 

[Desk Jockey]

 

[Brian H]

I'm sure you've seen this too Brian: A number of employees will approach you and tell you how glad they are that you let the "bad apple" go. The amount of damage such people do to the morale of the company is not often seen at first, as the good ones tend to "soldier on" and not complain.

It seems though that fellow employees usually see the problems before we do.

I totally agree Jim!! Usually though it's a comment like" What took you guys so long to fire him?!!"

 

[Cleanworks]

One of the worst stories I've heard locally was from a guy who while working in the office, had the employee call in because there was a dispute over pricing as he was about the start a job. The boss was maybe in a bad mood or something and thought the employee should have been able to resolve the issue without having to call. So he tells the employee to bring the truck back and by the way you're fired. The employee tells the customer that because of the price dispute, the cleaning is now free. He takes the Hydroforce and sprays everything in the house. Walls, electronics, books, pictures, everything he can see. Puts down the sprayer and walks away, leaving the truck running. Over $10,000 damage.

 

[Jimmy L]

I would never work for somebody who would have me as an employee.