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Anyone know any classes that will be somewhat close to Minnesota in the next couple of months? I want to take a class that is 2 days or more, that will give me my certification and teach me how to clean in a rug pit.
 

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Stay for a second day by special arrangement. (contact Doug or myself)
 
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Stay for a second day by special arrangement. (contact Doug or myself)
Do you get the rug cleaning certification from IICRC?
 

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I don't think Tom provides an IICRC certificate.

Rumor is, he's more of a song and dance man :winky:
 

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Rug cleaners aren't that fond of the IICRC course, only because it's really basic and many people think if they complete it their rug education is complete. It's a good place to start.
Understandable, just want to have it added to my list of IICRC certifications. Been cleaning rugs for awhile but definitely could use some more knowledge on how to clean in a pit and identifying what style of rug it is from where and how it was made and so forth
 

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You can get CEC by attending if you already have IICRC. Doug Heiferman as an Instructor has arranged this for classes.
 
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I am sorry if this seems like a stupid question. The benefits of education and training are obvious; I'm all for it. What I don't understand is the benefit of certification. Do customers really care? Are there any other situations where a rug cleaning certification means something?
 

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What has more effect on establishing trust when a new customer is dropping off a rug and vetting the business, patches and plaqards or wisdom and knowledge installed in the check-in person?


And what's more important when you fvck up their rug and are explaining what went wrong to them or a lawyer...?
 
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I am sorry if this seems like a stupid question. The benefits of education and training are obvious; I'm all for it. What I don't understand is the benefit of certification. Do customers really care? Are there any other situations where a rug cleaning certification means something?
Rather than meaningless certification, I would like to have a simple certificate that states that I have attended whatever cleaning class. Just something to hang on the wall to let the customers know that you take your craft seriously enough to take additional training. Passing a certification course is useless if you don't know or care how to actually perform the service that you are certified in. Many mechanics are certified but still can't fix your car properly.
 

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Rather than meaningless certification, I would like to have a simple certificate that states that I have attended whatever cleaning class. Just something to hang on the wall to let the customers know that you take your craft seriously enough to take additional training. Passing a certification course is useless if you don't know or care how to actually perform the service that you are certified in. Many mechanics are certified but still can't fix your car properly.


Just wear a Canadian flag patch.
 

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Some of the certification courses I have taken were also taken by spouses of several cleaners I know, who have never cleaned a carpet in their life. Yet they got in the high 90's on the test. What does that mean? Absolutely nothing.
 

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There are much better and more in-depth classes out there rather than the IICRC stuff. I would rather have a tech that went to a specialist training like Jim Pemberton’s fine fabric class over an IICRC clown any day.

Good on anyone for staying in the process of getting educated. But if your doing it to have a bunch of patches on your arm and thinking the customer cares, you’re doing it for the wrong reasons.
 

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I try and do IICRC where I can on the restoration side.
But its only to say I have followed an accepted protocol etc.

What you learn is equally as much to do with your attitude/ability to learn, the instructor and the course content imo
 

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I am sorry if this seems like a stupid question. The benefits of education and training are obvious; I'm all for it. What I don't understand is the benefit of certification. Do customers really care? Are there any other situations where a rug cleaning certification means something?
I've had plenty of people tell me they only called me for the job for my certifications. I do think that people care. Would you hire the guy that has certifications proving hes taken classes in his field of work or some guy with no credentials to his name that you have no idea if they know what they're doing. Like I stated before I want to know more on rug pit cleaning and its just a bonus to have that certification to prove I've taken the class.
 

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There are much better and more in-depth classes out there rather than the IICRC stuff. I would rather have a tech that went to a specialist training like Jim Pemberton’s fine fabric class over an IICRC clown any day.

Good on anyone for staying in the process of getting educated. But if your doing it to have a bunch of patches on your arm and thinking the customer cares, you’re doing it for the wrong reasons.
If you think Doug Heiferman is a clown then you're a certified dumb ass.
 

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If you think Doug Heiferman is a clown then you're a certified dumb ass.
I have much respect for Doug and his passion. If the shoe fits wear it.... I'm looking forward to meeting Doug in a couple of weeks.
 

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Ive never met him but if and when we do and he calls me "My Friend", he better protect his jugular.
 

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