Adhesive removal

[Rob Grady]

Good morning. I have a good customer who used adhesive backed plastic covering on his steps during construction. It was left on for about a year. He sent me this photo asking if I could remove the residue.
I am thinking to mist CitrusSolve, a wallpaper steamer to heat the affected areas really well and extract with my TM .
Have any of you ever ran into this type of problem? Thanks for your input!

 

[hogjowl]

Good luck

 

[Rob Grady]

lol that’s what I told them

 

[Jim Pemberton]

It was left on for about a year.

Make sure you get paid no matter what happens

Your concept is good, let me add a bit from my experience:

1. Its the customer's problem, get paid no matter what happens.

2. Citrus solvents leave soil attracting residues of their own. Make sure you follow the mist (I noted you said "mist"....you don't want too much of that on there) with a heavy application of a high pH, solvent boosted prespray (the nuke of your choice). This type of product is the mostly likely emulsify the adhesive AND the citrus solvent.

3. Lots of heat in your rinse/extraction step. Heat melts glue, and also will thin out the oily solvent.

4. Help the customer to understand that you can't see or feel the adhesive, so while the dirt will come off easily, the adhesive is clear, and may reattract soil over time. This is not bad cleaning on your part. Get paid no matter what happens.

Did I mention to get paid no matter what happens?

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Nope, don't have "that good of customers". Does look like something a priest would do though or have someone else do. Sounds like a plan.

 

[Nate The Great]

We have used and have had great success with Carpet Mastic residue removal.. UltraDry system from
ChemMax.. It's a VLM bonnet process different from encap.. You prespray the carpet, soak your synthetic bonnets in the hot catalyst solution, wring it out, and use your rotary.. We've had a small stair 175 rotary for steps.. The magic that happens using that system has made us the problem solvers since the 1990's..

The carpet mastic directions say not to leave it more than 28 days, I believe.. I know if you leave it down past a month, you're asking for problems..

We get a lot of calls from builders who use that crap..

I know you're in Canada, I'm not sure if you can get the product..

 

[Rob Grady]

Yes , I believe before Paul Lucas took on the UltraDry system that process was known as MagnaDry in the States. My process for VLM in Canada utilizes the Roto-Static Cleaning Solution. Those two names have been around for some time, although I don’t know of any Magna Dry franchises still .
I have been a Franchised Dealer since 1978. I have the Husky 13” stair machine, that came as part of the tool selection we were provided initially. You can see my avatar is a Husky 17” proprietary technology unit.

 

[Rob Grady]

Make sure you get paid no matter what happens

Your concept is good, let me add a bit from my experience:

1. Its the customer's problem, get paid no matter what happens.

2. Citrus solvents leave soil attracting residues of their own. Make sure you follow the mist (I noted you said "mist"....you don't want too much of that on there) with a heavy application of a high pH, solvent boosted prespray (the nuke of your choice). This type of product is the mostly likely emulsify the adhesive AND the citrus solvent.

3. Lots of heat in your rinse/extraction step. Heat melts glue, and also will thin out the oily solvent.

4. Help the customer to understand that you can't see or feel the adhesive, so while the dirt will come off easily, the adhesive is clear, and may reattract soil over time. This is not bad cleaning on your part. Get paid no matter what happens.

Did I mention to get paid no matter what happens?

Yes thanks Jim. I indicated upfront that I have a healthy minimum charge, and that I classify this type of work as experimental only at the customer’s choice to proceed.
I am working on another idea also, of how to approach this. I will be making an attempt this week and will update.

 

[roro]

When faced with similar we went along Jim's line, of solvent boosted prespray but not completely successful. On the reservice, and acting more more in desparation we hooked a Little Giant 3HT in-line after our truckmount (Predator Unleashed)which was already running pretty hot as it was peak summer. so suspect we were hitting around 140 deg C. Had to wrap towels around the wands to hold them. Heat- the final solution worked.

 

[MarkieMark]

Try this.....

If not follow through with this....

 

[Jim Pemberton]

When faced with similar we went along Jim's line, of solvent boosted prespray but not completely successful. On the reservice, and acting more more in desparation we hooked a Little Giant 3HT in-line after our truckmount (Predator Unleashed)which was already running pretty hot as it was peak summer. so suspect we were hitting around 140 deg C. Had to wrap towels around the wands to hold them. Heat- the final solution worked.

That's 284 fahrenheit for those who don't want to Google the conversion



That kind of heat will melt any adhesive know to man I'm sure!

Nice having you around all these years here Ross

 

[Johnny's Back]

This has worked for me, recently on nylon that was black from old film that had been pulled up about two years prior. Apply a higher concentration of high-ph prespray like Ultrapac Extreme with delim added, mist delim on top as necessary, scrub with fiber pad under OP machine like a Phoenix, rinse with alkali solution like Dry Slurry.

Start with a medium pad and change to more aggressive pads as necessary. I've started with Excellent Supply's beige pad and then needed a grey one. I've also used red and green pads. I think scrubbing with fiber pads is the key.

You can rerinse with acid solution and/or post-pad with cotton. Last adhesive removal job I did was in a house for sale, so I stopped after the alkali rinse. Looked great.

I think those stairs could be scrubbed with fiber pads on a hand machine.

 

[they live]

Ive cleaned several jobs like this. First time I had to go back and reclean because of resoiling.
Last time I used ultrapac mixed strong and hot then scrubbed with a crb. Its great on stairs. I hold it by the crossbar on stairs. Then HWE.

Then repeated the process. Checked on it later and no problems.
I cleaned the whole area effected before repeating the process using less ultrapac the 2nd time.