100% VLM ???

[frank fratto]

You must be in Northern Florida

Southern Florida doesn't get that cold

30 minutes from Magic Kingdom. Central Florida.

 

[Zee]

It is so cold, me and my wife did not go walking this morning.

Sorry, I can't help it. My blood has thinned out. lol! 35 degree!!!

77° here, yesterday afternoon.

 

[frank fratto]

77° here, yesterday afternoon.

I'm looking forward to 73 on Saturday!

 

[frank fratto]

I had one a couple weeks ago that had been getting done by a local padder. He said mine dried just as fast but was way cleaner.

I often hear about how I leave the carpet soft and fresh smelling.

Dwain & Steve,
New customer today from referral.

She said your hoses won't leak all over my floor will it?

I said no, I do not use hoses. Why?

The other guy leaked on my tile , when he was cleaning my carpet.

He said don't worry, I'll suck it up. With my 6.2 motor out in my Van!

She said, she likes that I brought everything in and shut the door! And there were no hoses!


Sorry, I made up the part of the 6.2 motor out in the Van?

 

[Kenny Hayes]

That's a clever little selling point you could persuade a potential customer with, but you and I both know a 175 will sling solution on a
floor up close to carpet. An Op will, Cimex will, they all will. A good tech will carry towels or runners, or both, and some sort of mop for such an occasion. Next

 

[frank fratto]

That's a clever little selling point you could persuade a potential customer with, but you and I both know a 175 will sling solution on a
floor up close to carpet. An Op will, Cimex will, they all will. A good tech will carry towels or runners, or both, and some sort of mop for such an occasion. Next

Sling solution??

How much solution are you putting down??

Holy smokes you shouldn't be Slinging any solution when you VLM Carpet???

Every carpet cleaner should be using towels?? [For walk off purpose ]

 

[frank fratto]

That's a clever little selling point you could persuade a potential customer with, but you and I both know a 175 will sling solution on a
floor up close to carpet. An Op will, Cimex will, they all will. A good tech will carry towels or runners, or both, and some sort of mop for such an occasion. Next

If you're a VLM guy and you are slinging solution?

You have a problem? You are a

MUD MAKER??!!

 

[Kenny Hayes]

Really? That's what you're going with, ok.

 

[frank fratto]

Really? That's what you're going with, ok.

Yep, that's what I'm going with!

If a VLM guy is putting down that much solution

he might as well switch over and be a steamer..........[ To The dark side lol]




A wise man once said.
Less water, more agitation !!!

 

[Kenny Hayes]

WHATEVER!

 

[frank fratto]

WHATEVER!

NEXT! LOL

 

[Kenny Hayes]

I guess you can use a spray bottle

 

[frank fratto]

I guess you can use a spray bottle

I have options?
Spray bottle maybe?
Hydro Force up to 350 psi?
Worx sprayer?
My preferred method?
35 psi- 2 1/2 gallons battery pack sprayer!!!

 

[Cleanworks]

Yep, that's what I'm going with!

If a VLM guy is putting down that much solution

he might as well switch over and be a steamer..........[ To The dark side lol]




A wise man once said.
Less water, more agitation !!!

You need to have enough solution to lubricate the fibres. Otherwise, you risk damaging the carpet. Guys who use shower feed systems or onboard spray systems need to be more aware of how much solution they are using. Depending on what pads you are using, it's not uncommon to get solution on the baseboards or on adjacent floors.

 

[frank fratto]

You need to have enough solution to lubricate the fibres. Otherwise, you risk damaging the carpet. Guys who use shower feed systems or onboard spray systems need to be more aware of how much solution they are using. Depending on what pads you are using, it's not uncommon to get solution on the baseboards or on adjacent floors.

OMG
It's like herding cats with you guys??? LOL

I understand lubrication?

I've been doing VLM for 10 years full time....

Sometime I may step off my towel and put

moisture on the Wood floor ???? Oh on..

All I'm saying ? Do not get the pad WET??

Don't be a MUD MAKER....

 

[Kenny Hayes]

But you're making the mountain out of a molehill when you can simply mop up dripping water from a hose Or the same with overspray from a machine or a sprayer. Simple as that Don't mean you have a bad tech. Do you always carry that 175 to your van?

 

[SteamwayPro]

I only did one job using my tank at my Apt Complex and what I didn't like about it was it got the baseboards wet

It absolutely flings solution on baseboards and onto the tile in the kitchen

I'm experimenting with the tank with the hopes of finding a better way to apply cl02

That's the only time I was planning on using the tank

If I even do that. I haven't decided yet


Frank does it the right way not using a tank on his 175


I cleaned my Living Room and Hall today using the tank and didn't like it

And decided I don't need a Swirly or want a Swirly


LESS water MORE agitation !!!

 

[SteamwayPro]

Dwain & Steve,
New customer today from referral.

She said your hoses won't leak all over my floor will it?

I said no, I do not use hoses. Why?

The other guy leaked on my tile , when he was cleaning my carpet.

He said don't worry, I'll suck it up. With my 6.2 motor out in my Van!

She said, she likes that I brought everything in and shut the door! And there were no hoses!


Sorry, I made up the part of the 6.2 motor out in the Van?

Customers LOVE that the doors are SHUT

Especially when it's winter

 

[frank fratto]

I only did one job using my tank at my Apt Complex and what I didn't like about it was it got the baseboards wet

It absolutely flings solution on baseboards and onto the tile in the kitchen

I'm experimenting with the tank with the hopes of finding a better way to apply cl02

That's the only time I was planning on using the tank

If I even do that. I haven't decided yet


Frank does it the right way not using a tank on his 175


I cleaned my Living Room and Hall today using the tank and didn't like it

And decided I don't need a Swirly or want a Swirly


LESS water MORE agitation !!!

George,
Thank you!

My system works for ME!

 

[frank fratto]

But you're making the mountain out of a molehill when you can simply mop up dripping water from a hose Or the same with overspray from a machine or a sprayer. Simple as that Don't mean you have a bad tech. Do you always carry that 175 to your van?

I got on this molehill because?

Most of you guys were saying, VLM is for interim or commercial carpet?

In my opinion ,that could not be further from the truth?

I had to prove it to myself first and once i did ,I've never looked back?

If any of you guys switch full-time, like me and George committed 100%

Then you'll know what we know?

SO YOU DO YOU? I DO ME!!!

Because I've been where you've been....

And there's a lot of new guys that are reading this thread I think they

should hear the other side of the story...

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH??? {And i don't think they paid anything for it?}

 

[Cleanworks]

I got on this molehill because?

Most of you guys were saying, VLM is for interim or commercial carpet?

In my opinion ,that could not be further from the truth?

I had to prove it to myself first and once i did ,I've never looked back?

If any of you guys switch full-time, like me and George committed 100%

Then you'll know what we know?

SO YOU DO YOU? I DO ME!!!

Because I've been where you've been....

And there's a lot of new guys that are reading this thread I think they

should hear the other side of the story...

FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH??? {And i don't think they paid anything for it?}

I have a friend who went 100% VLM. I bought his truck mount. There are many times he tells me he wishes he had it back. Yes, VLM works but it can take much longer and can be more physically demanding at times depending on your equipment. I do a lot of VLM but mainly on commercial. I started over 40 years ago doing VLM. I am no stranger to it. It has its place, as does hwe. Ironically, we see many VLM only guys refusing to take on certain jobs and referring hwe.

 

[Jack Zipper Zerkie]

If u use a unit with a tank and a drop feed more solution will be used. If you use a tank with a 40 psi spray problem solved and type of unit you clean with is your option spray unit more control. But I'm still learning.

 

[frank fratto]

I have a friend who went 100% VLM. I bought his truck mount. There are many times he tells me he wishes he had it back. Yes, VLM works but it can take much longer and can be more physically demanding at times depending on your equipment. I do a lot of VLM but mainly on commercial. I started over 40 years ago doing VLM. I am no stranger to it. It has its place, as does hwe. Ironically, we see many VLM only guys refusing to take on certain jobs and referring hwe.

Not me?

The dirtier and rat nastier it is

more fun it becomes!!!

VLM will always get the dirtiest carpet cleaner!!!

If you know what I know?

And a lot of us VLM guys know IT !!! [ NOT ALL???]

 

[Cleanworks]

Not me?

The dirtier and rat nastier it is

more fun it becomes!!!

VLM will always get the dirtiest carpet cleaner!!!

If you know what I know?

And a lot of us VLM guys know IT !!! [ NOT ALL???]

There are a lot of know it alls out there

 

[frank fratto]

There are a lot of know it alls out there

True!

 

[frank fratto]

Customers LOVE that the doors are SHUT

Especially when it's winter

Especially, when alligators don't walk-in!!!

 

[Cleanworks]

Here is a couple of things to think about. When cleaning area rugs in a specialty rug shop, after thoroughly dusting and vacuuming a rug, (much more thoroughly than you can vacuum) they don't just pass a scrubber and pad over it. They put it on a wash floor or in a tank, completely immerse it, scrub it, put it into a centrifuge, they hang it up and dry it. There are several people on this board that religiously vacuum with professional vacuum cleaners before cleaning with their truck mounts. They like using lint filters in-between their vacuum hose and their waste tank. At the end of the day, or sometimes even at the end of the job, they have to empty these filters of the hair and debris it collected. Even though they vacuumed every job. That's what you may have left behind.

 

[frank fratto]

Here is a couple of things to think about. When cleaning area rugs in a specialty rug shop, after thoroughly dusting and vacuuming a rug, (much more thoroughly than you can vacuum) they don't just pass a scrubber and pad over it. They put it on a wash floor or in a tank, completely immerse it, scrub it, put it into a centrifuge, they hang it up and dry it. There are several people on this board that religiously vacuum with professional vacuum cleaners before cleaning with their truck mounts. They like using lint filters in-between their vacuum hose and their waste tank. At the end of the day, or sometimes even at the end of the job, they have to empty these filters of the hair and debris it collected. Even though they vacuumed every job. That's what you may have left behind.

In-line lint filters
I'm sure i owned at least 10 of them in different styles?

But did they make mud in the cleaning process?

And did wicking occurred the next day or days later??

Most steamers over wet the carpet??? [Not all ]

 

[Zee]

Here is a couple of things to think about. When cleaning area rugs in a specialty rug shop, after thoroughly dusting and vacuuming a rug, (much more thoroughly than you can vacuum) they don't just pass a scrubber and pad over it. They put it on a wash floor or in a tank, completely immerse it, scrub it, put it into a centrifuge, they hang it up and dry it. There are several people on this board that religiously vacuum with professional vacuum cleaners before cleaning with their truck mounts. They like using lint filters in-between their vacuum hose and their waste tank. At the end of the day, or sometimes even at the end of the job, they have to empty these filters of the hair and debris it collected. Even though they vacuumed every job. That's what you may have left behind.

A bit of an apples/oranges situation though.

Looking at individual yarns, you can clearly see why: a wool yarn surface that looks like the back of a fish with all the scales, as opposed to a smooth synthetic yarn surface.

Of course wool will hold onto a lot more contamination, warranting much more dry soil removal efforts and flushing action.
A smooth plastic surface of a synthetic yarn is way easier to rid of contamination.

 

[Cleanworks]

A bit of an apples/oranges situation though.

Looking at individual yarns, you can clearly see why: a wool yarn surface that looks like the back of a fish with all the scales, as opposed to a smooth synthetic yarn surface.

Of course wool will hold onto a lot more contamination, warranting much more dry soil removal efforts and flushing action.
A smooth plastic surface of a synthetic yarn is way easier to rid of contamination.

Actually, wool fibres have an overlapping scaly structure, kind of like roof shingles that prevents dry soil becoming attached and making vacuuming easier than synthetic fibres.