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I am just not comfortable telling someone they are a "lemming, retard or have no morals" because they made a decision they felt best suited their business model.

Interesting..

So what other rip off, unmoral, child endangering and down right disgusting businesses are you willing to over look in order to uphold the great American way?
 
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Amen Bawb!!

Simple BS method for simpletons.


That Vortex conversion guy cracked me up with his line about how to clean edges and corners



Can you imagine cleaning a furnished home with a 19 inch round head?


Omg.

Just toss your morality into the trashcan.

Ya and when I drive in my driveway at the end of the day. I am done. Don't even have a grease nipple to think about. LOL

BTW since when did you become the moral compass for humanity ? Ya do know you are a steam cleaner don't ya ?
 
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I'm not gonna read this entire mess but ill add to the thread count. Chemdry is switching to truckmounts, why not trinitys. It would save them 20k per unit plus they could continue to pound and ground. Johns testing results makes perfect sense. A truckmount is sucking up pulling the dirt out but a trinity is pounding it down. It only makes sense he would get these results. Geez it ain't rocket scscience

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Ya and when I drive in my driveway at the end of the day. I am done. Don't even have a grease nipple to think about. LOL

BTW since when did you become the moral compass for humanity ? Ya do know you are a steam cleaner don't ya ?

Who does the laundry?


Or do you use the same Baby Jesus Micro Diapers for a whole weeks worth of sinning?
 

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I'm not gonna read this entire mess but ill add to the thread count. Chemdry is switching to truckmounts, why not trinitys. It would save them 20k per unit plus they could continue to pound and ground. Johns testing results makes perfect sense. A truckmount is sucking up pulling the dirt out but a trinity is pounding it down. It only makes sense he would get these results. Geez it ain't rocket scscience

gene

Gene I hear trough the grape vine that chem dry is basing their decision to go with TMs so they can falsley market perception. Plus they can get in and out of a home faster using the drag and blend technique so popular with TM operators..
 

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If you dont get sucked into marketing schemes how come you keep beating your keyboard on this subject. Appears that you swallowed hook, line and sinker! I respect your passion for your trade, but on the bell-curve of learning your still climbing the steep-side. Just sayin.
 
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Mike, everyone here knows that you are the apex, or close it, example of a cleaning technician, with a lot of other broad knowledge, that has nothing to do with carpet. But attacking me will accomplish nothing. You have made your point of view very clear, fantastic, but how does getting off topic and accusing me of these unsubstantiated, and downright hateful charges help.


"So what other rip off, unmoral, child endangering and down right disgusting businesses are you willing to over look in order to uphold the great American way?"

I am sure when you get done with your walking on water presentation today, for your clients, you can inform me of exactly how I rip people off, endanger children, disgust businessmen, and accomplish the destruction of America.


If you have anything constructive to add, please do, otherwise, please at least attempt to stay out of conversations that you really do not have anything to add to. Thank you.
 
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Who is 'they'?

I'm not gonna read this entire mess but ill add to the thread count. Chemdry is switching to truckmounts, why not trinitys. It would save them 20k per unit plus they could continue to pound and ground. Johns testing results makes perfect sense. A truckmount is sucking up pulling the dirt out but a trinity is pounding it down. It only makes sense he would get these results. Geez it ain't rocket scscience

gene

I worked as a Chem Dry technician for six years until last August.

CD 'switched' to TMs years ago, but have been battling franchisee resistance ever since. The company is trying to force a new generation of 'powerhead' type extractors on franchisees, again with great resistance.

The company isn't interested in saving money on equipment--that's just silly.

CD requires the franchisees to buy the new contraptions, and the truck mounts that come with them, at a great profit for CD corporate. These machines also drink copious amounts of CD proprietary chemicals.

A more efficient, less costly machine would actually cost CD corporate money.

Which is why corporate is at war with franchisees to stamp out padding.

CD corporate is run by venture capital type suits, not carpet guys. What they are doing has nothing to do with what's best for cleaning.
 
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If you have anything constructive to add, please do, otherwise, please at least attempt to stay out of conversations that you really do not have anything to add to. Thank you.
It seemed to me you caught some wrath meant for John or Mardie...?

Collateral damage? :confused:
 

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I suppose it was bound to happen when I started posting. Maybe I should have just kept reading the post's, and passed on the posting part. Live and learn I suppose. :D
 
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I suppose it was bound to happen when I started posting. Maybe I should have just kept reading the post's, and passed on the posting part. Live and learn I suppose. :D

Your posts are a refreshing display of decency and I think more people than not recognize that. Don't mind Mikey he is just playing into his small group of other BB band cronies that he started this BB with. I guess that is why the new membership on *** is 30 times that of MB.
 
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Sir, last week I had a lady in an upscale area (for Memphis) about $650,000.00. That had children and two dogs with an excessive amount of pet spots. I explained how both, hot water extraction and VLM would work, she opted for the VLM, because she wanted the faster dry time. I suppose I could have turned the job down because in some people's eye's she made the wrong decision, but alas I provided what she ask for and took the money instead.
 

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Gene I hear trough the grape vine that chem dry is basing their decision to go with TMs so they can falsley market perception. Plus they can get in and out of a home faster using the drag and blend technique so popular with TM operators..

Hey there Mardie. I come in peace...,

Just wanted to share my observations about this one. Not looking for a war.

You know.... To me ChemDry's motivation seems simple. Water extraction is washing. Washing is very effective. Not saying more or less than anything else here, just that it's effective.

It removes liquid based contamination well because it applies solution in the same manner as the spill provided the soiling.

I think it is a HUGE turn of events that "while doing it in a way that saves face" ChemDry is now embracing extraction.

I do not think they came to this lightly. This was probably a hotly contested issue within the rank and file at ChemDry HQ. everybody involved would have appreciated the potential for enormous corporate embarrassment over such a shift in polarity.

They clearly resigned to the change for some very pragmatic reasons. I'd venture Mardie, performance was at the top of the list of those reasons,

There is no other incentive to proceed with the change, at great expense and to numerous logistical challenges - saying nothing of the potential to damage their own brand......

Unless.....

The system cleans better and it addresses problems ChemDry has identified in its' core business.

Mardie, one of the encap titans of the world with THE brand and THE market power has surrendered to HWE.

I mean nothing personal in my next question. It's for you to consider.

Mardie, what have you to lose by getting a cheap portable, and at your own pace and discretion seeing what adding HWE to your business can do for you?

What really have you to lose? What might you gain?

Grant
 
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Your posts are a refreshing display of decency and I think more people than not recognize that. Don't mind Mikey he is just playing into his small group of other BB band cronies that he started this BB with. I guess that is why the new membership on *** is 30 times that of MB.
DAMN I don't know which I resent more, being called one of the old cronies or that you're here on MB when you could be over there enjoying "the 30-times that of MB"

Mardie who cares what *** has, go there....stay there, enjoy them.....don't come here to bitch about it. :icon_rolleyes: Go over there and talk about us. Tell them I said "Hey" for me would ya? :p
 

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Grant

Perhaps you missed my post above. CD has been doing HWE for years now--and promoting it through their website and at Home Depot.

This is no sudden change.

Franchisees, where the rubber meets the road, have resisted and continued to use the 'legacy' padding system.

CD pushes the HWE system purely for the financial gain of CD corporate--franchisees make very little off the HWE protocol.
 

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Sorry in Australia the change was more sudden.

Grant

PS

I still question WHY at ANY juncture a company whose image became so linked with low moisture, ever even entertained the notion of extraction.

Something was an issue and they responded.

This is my point really.

Thanks for setting me straight.
 
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[Sir, last week I had a lady in an upscale area (for Memphis) about $650,000.00. That had children and two dogs with an excessive amount of pet spots. I explained how both, hot water extraction and VLM would work, she opted for the VLM, because she wanted the faster dry time. I suppose I could have turned the job down because in some people's eye's she made the wrong decision, but alas I provided what she ask for and took the money instead.QUOTE]

So you were prepared to offer both methods?

I'll assume that you have certain level of professionalism about you and come off as trustworthy. I'll also assume you stirred Her In the direction of the easier and more profitable VLY with mentions of "sanitizing" "encapsulation" "absorption" "clean" and other falsehoods.


In other words, you lied to her.


If you had the ability to offer both, as a fellow human with a moral conscious, you should have never brought up the vlm option.

If it's your only method, well...shame in you too for being a less than true professional.





One more time...If you shit your pants, how do you clean up? In the shower with lots of got soapy water ? Or just some toilet paper and maybe some spit?
 
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Sir, last week I had a lady in an upscale area (for Memphis) about $650,000.00. That had children and two dogs with an excessive amount of pet spots. I explained how both, hot water extraction and VLM would work, she opted for the VLM, because she wanted the faster dry time. I suppose I could have turned the job down because in some people's eye's she made the wrong decision, but alas I provided what she ask for and took the money instead.
Wrong answer! :eekk:

Couldn't you have told her that in her situation, the best way to remove those contaminants would be by flushing with HWE in this instance. I would have thought that's going to be a much better method at removal than using a pad for it. Money is money but I'd think you would want to educate her on her best value for her money too.
 
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Grant I have nothing against hwe but when the few hwe fags on this board want to talk shit about what i do I will give them the same shit back about what they do.
As far as chem dry corperate goes I doubt they could care less about changing there ways. It is all about $$ and marketing and very little to do with CC. Besides it is only other CCs that will recognise this change.

BTW you do great work and are fine example that CC is all about the man and not the machine.
 

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I still don't understand the issue?

Big Green gets em' dry enough that they are ready to rock in 4 hours. And this is a single 2 stage motor unit.

How wet do people think extraction leaves things?

Shit man.....

Granted I live Downunder.; but even in the winter I can have an air mover in the room as I finish, by the tine I'm done with the next room the first is touch dry.

Mardie mate.... Get a cheap machine and go mad scientist in your shed. People will give you carpets that are knackard and you can set yourself up a test bed.

First thing you'll see is that while Dry doesn't really mean 'Dry' in carpet cleaning, neither does Wet really equate to 'Wet' either.

Grant
 
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Ok well thanks Mardie for the kudos. Respect here too. I'll leave the topic now. Too rich for my blood. I'm still a hack anyway
 

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This is getting boring : )




Again


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Wrong answer! :eekk:

Couldn't you have told her that in her situation, the best way to remove those contaminants would be by flushing with HWE in this instance. I would have thought that's going to be a much better method at removal than using a pad for it. Money is money but I'd think you would want to educate her on her best value for her money too.

Richard you should read a post before you make your reply. He did explain the options and she chose.
 

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