Celery smell???

cobra · May 3, 2015

FredC said:
Again...no idea on the celery other than it may be your description of the smell carpet gets after being wet to long and the microbes start multiplying.

What I do know is if there is not someone coming in spraying the carpet after you leave and it is still wet 2 days later.........you did something wrong (not meant to be an attack)....

That was my first thought, but the smell was there before we cleaned the carpet. That's where the problem is. The PM says urine but it aint urine. again I would love for that to be the problem but that cannot be the problem if the problem existed before we came in!

hogjowl · May 3, 2015

Fred, you seem to be assuming this dude is an idiot.
Do you know him?

Dolly Llama · May 3, 2015

cobra said:
But I will do the logical thing and adjust my water and drop fans, and move on!

don't think you have much choice but to drop airmovers , DJ
if you want to keep 'em happy, doesn't much matter if it's your technique or some odd condition that inhibits dry times ...drop fans

side note....How trashed are these carpets in general?
The amount (and type) of prespray needed/used can make a very substantial difference in dry times

..L.T.A.

cobra · May 3, 2015

Papa John said:
Hum??? Then maybe check the furnace filters or chems near furnace or refrigerator drip/evaporation dishes.. check the cleaning agents of the other cleaning crew.-- maybe pesticides?

the next few we do I am going to stay at the unit until the carpet is dry and have the PM sign off. My guys can run the rest of the day. If they have a prob after that we will know that it has nothing to do with us. Pesticides is what my wife/business partner suggested, I will check on that Monday!

cobra · May 3, 2015

Ruff Hewn said:
don't think you have much choice but to drop airmovers , DJ
if you want to keep 'em happy, doesn't much matter if it's your technique or some odd condition that inhibits dry times ...drop fans

side note....How trashed are these carpets in general?
The amount (and type) of prespray needed/used can make a very substantial difference in dry times

..L.T.A.

Larry, I was just about to ask could we be too aggressive with prespray??? most of them aren't that bad. I would consider them a routine clean

FredC · May 3, 2015

hogjowl said:
Fred, you seem to be assuming this dude is an idiot.
Do you know him?

I'm not going to take that bait.....

I will say that he stated in his post he has a habit of leaving things wet 24+ hours.

FredC · May 3, 2015

cobra said:
Larry, I was just about to ask could we be too aggressive with prespray??? most of them aren't that bad. I would consider them a routine clean

using a hydroforce?

hogjowl · May 3, 2015

Well then, he should spray it in and cotton bonnet it off.

Then sell that POS TM.

cobra · May 3, 2015

FredC said:
using a hydroforce?

yes

Dolly Llama · May 3, 2015

cobra said:
I was just about to ask could we be too aggressive with prespray?

sure it's "possible"
I know some presprays make carpet "wetter" than others too....

how many gallons RTU prespray pr average 700sf 2 bd rm apt is used?
2 gal?
3, 4 or more?

or are you using an inline Hydrosoaker sprayer and can't accurately monitor?

Never mind, just read the other posts

..L.T.A.

FredC · May 3, 2015

cobra said:
yes

Then yes..especially in spots you give more attention to

would be possible with other sprayers...just not as likely

kingjoelking · May 3, 2015

My guess is that the apartments have zero airflow. You are cleaning a box closing the door and there isnt anywhere for the moisture to go so it dries very slowly. Turn the AC on before you leave. or leave a fan for circulation.

Terry · May 3, 2015

DJ - the reason I asked about the floors above ground level is because I had a similar problem last year but figured it out quickly as it was in August and had high humidity and before proceeding were able to determine that moisture was condensing on the carpet due to very old and worn(almost non existent) underlay. This was on the ground floor. I was able to find several areas in the unit we were to work in and also in the common areas. Little or no air conditioning was also a huge factor.
I used Microban in the unit and cleaned leaving air movers.
Areas of carpet that had been replaced and had new moisture barrier underlay didn't have a problem but old worn carpet/underlay did.

This may not be your problem but thought I would share.

Shane T · May 4, 2015

Could the smell you notice before cleaning be the type of paint being used? One of the properties I clean uses a paint that I think stinks for some time after painting.

Charlie Lyman · May 4, 2015

I would do as you already said. Put air movers out, stay there until it's dry and see if they agree with you. Their perception of dry might me psychopathicly off.
I had a customer say everyone left her carpets soaking wet for 3 days. I cleaned them and dried them with air movers. I had my son with me moving the fans around. We left when it was dry. She called back about a mysterious spot that only came out at certain times of the day (shadow). I offered to to come re clean the shadow and she said no, she didn't want the carpets wet for 3 days again. It was dry when we left.

cobra · May 4, 2015

Shane T said:
Could the smell you notice before cleaning be the type of paint being used? One of the properties I clean uses a paint that I think stinks for some time after painting.

Yes that's one thing we looked at but I don't know?? doesn't smell bad upclose

cobra · May 4, 2015

so we went in Saturday and recleaned with enzyme and deodorizer, left a/c fan on, 1 air mover and 1 dehu for grins and giggles.
Came in first thing this morning with pm and maintenance and it smelled good. for whatever reason their units just aren't drying, so we are dropping to 250psi and leaving air movers. everyones happy the end!!

hogjowl · May 4, 2015

Except for the dirt you're leaving.

jcooper · May 4, 2015

hogjowl said:
Except for the dirt you're leaving.

He's NOT encapping it! :hopeless:

hogjowl · May 4, 2015

At 250 psi and portable quality suction, he'd be better off encapping.

Ray Burnfield · May 4, 2015

hogjowl said:
Well then, he should spray it in and cotton bonnet it off.

Then sell that POS TM.

Maybe the Honker is still available. At 24hg that would solve any problem.
Don't think it's the machine :oldrolleyes:

Joe Appleby · May 5, 2015

Check the lower level of the fiber for dry cleaning powder like Host or Capture (tiny sponges). Could be a powdered deodorizer for the urine which holds moisture.

kingjoelking · May 5, 2015

hogjowl said:
At 250 psi and portable quality suction, he'd be better off encapping.

He's running a 36 blower at 65' whats the big deal?

Ray Burnfield · May 5, 2015

Joe Appleby said:
Check the lower level of the fiber for dry cleaning powder like Host or Capture (tiny sponges). Could be a powdered deodorizer for the urine which holds moisture.

Check your filter on your TM for those dirt bombs

mirf · May 5, 2015

Good for you to keep trying. I glad you found a way to keep the PM happy. You probably have the job forever as I do Not think
very many cleaners would leave equipment and have to return to pick it up.

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