Shawn or other chemical geniuses- Yellow bleach stain on cotton- gone. Why?

[ruff]

The wife had a stain on white cotton pants.
She tried bleach, it left large yellow stain.
I soaked in Sodium Bisulfite- did nothing.
Then the wife tried an old product her mom used to use- "Rit- Fabric whitener" it worked perfectly. Stains gone, pants whiter than ever, no visible fabric damage. (The active ingredient is: Alkyl sodium N-Methyltaurate.)

Shawn or whoever knows:

• Can you explain why it worked.
• Is it used in our industry? What products?
• Is it safe?
• Can we use it and if yes, how?

Thanks.

 

[rwcarpet]

Interesting, Ofer.......I had just discovered (through an old CC'er on FB) that Barbasol shaving cream (plain) takes out dried, older paint in carpet. That's a big problem with rentals. It won't work on fresh or recently dried paint.

 

[Ron Lippold]

It works good on rust as well

 

[truckmount girl]

It works good on rust as well

Barbasol or Rit Fabric Whitener?

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Ron Lippold]

White foamy barbasol

 

[truckmount girl]

White foamy barbasol

freaky, that I am going to have to try as I avoid rust removers when I can.

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Ron K]

Glad I don't shave with that!

 

[Ron Lippold]

About the best rust remover out there

 

[Larry Cobb]

About the best rust remover out there

Ron;

As a user of Erusticator,

I would have to see it side-by-side.

Larry

 

[truckmount girl]

Well just about every grocery store has Barbasol at 99 cents a can, so you ought to be able to do lots of side-by-sides. I'm sure gonna try it.

Wish I had known this when I was cleaning and using the stuff every day. Rust Remover is some nasty stuff.

Take care,
Lisa

 

[Dan]

Larry,

Do you sell Erusticator?

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

.... "Rit- Fabric whitener" it worked perfectly. Stains gone, pants whiter than ever, no visible fabric damage. (The active ingredient is: Alkyl sodium N-Methyltaurate.)

Shawn or whoever knows:

• Can you explain why it worked.
• Is it used in our industry? What products?
• Is it safe?
• Can we use it and if yes, how?

Ofer, Rit makes a product called "Rit Whitener & Brightener", which is an optical brightener product. Alkyl sodium N-Methyltaurate is a surfactant, i think it is an amphoteric surfactant, to be precise. In and of itself, it won't have an active effect except to assist the Optical brightener formulation to absorb into the cotton and "set".

Optical Brighteners have no reasonable application in our industry. Manufacturers "toyed" with them in the 70's and early 80's, but the downsides were found to outweigh the upsides. For laundry, they can be well suited. They work by absorbing invisible ultraviolet light and changing it to white light. Existing Optical Brighteners can be yellowed by bleach, and the Rit may have aided in rinsing the damaged residue.

....

 

[Ron Lippold]

Buy a can of,it Larry, I have it and some local rust remove and the barbasol works better.

 

[Harry Myers]

Ron allot of different metals make different rust stains. Considering copper and brass. Green rust. I'll try it. I love rust removers and have good luck with them. I used shaving cream allot on carpets in the 80S for spotting

 

[Ron Lippold]

We have some special rust out here in the Wild West, not sure if it will handle Texas rust, but it should.

 

[GCCLee]

I love this place : )

barbasol must be about the only product that hasn't undergone a change in the last 50 yrs : )

 

[Willy P]

Ultrachem Clean takes rust out easily.Removes it, not changes the chemistry. Go to their youtube channel.

 

[Goomer]

What ingredient in Barbasol makes it effective on rust??

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

What ingredient in Barbasol makes it effective on rust??

Barbasol is Stearic Acid, Triethanolamine, Isobutane, Propane (or may contain Butane), Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, Laureth-23, Fragrance.

Possibly the stearic acid may offer some efficacy here. I know it is used as an anti-oxidant in fireworks metal powders.

 

[Willy P]

I dunno what you said Shawn, but I'll look smarter if I agree. Gary Heacock used to say lemon juice worked well on rust.

 

[ruff]

I dunno what you said Shawn, but I'll look smarter if I agree. Gary Heacock used to say lemon juice worked well on rust.

Freshly sqeezed?
Organic?

 

[Dale]

Hi Guys:

Check out Don Terry's spotting chart- under bleach. http://flooringinspector.com/page/15sio/Links.html

Sincerely,
Dale

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

Hi Guys:

Check out Don Terry's spotting chart- under bleach. http://flooringinspector.com/page/15sio/Links.html

Sincerely,
Dale

The "Rit Dye’s Color Remover" mentioned is Sodium Hydrosulfite, the same active in MasterBlend's Magic Dye Remover. Sodium Hydrosulfite, or even better, Sodium Bisufite (cost ,odor) will neutralize chlorine bleach, such that the residue of the bleach won't be reactivate with subsequent moisture. Rit White-Wash is another product that contains sodium hydrosulfite; it also contains soda ash. It is just a weakened version for bulk washing to remove weak discolorations.

 

[Joe Appleby]

Ofer, stop in. I have all the sodium hydrosulfite you'll ever need.

 

[Joe Appleby]

"Check out Don Terry's spotting chart- under bleach. http://flooringinspector.com/page/15sio/Links.html"
I don't see it Shawn.

 

[Larry Cobb]

Larry,

Do you sell Erusticator?

Unfortunately . . .

the lawyers have taken it away from hard-working carpet cleaners.

I still have some for testing effectiveness of rust removers.

Larry

 

[Desk Jockey]

Larry,

Do you sell Erusticator?

Not sure if they really have it in stock but it's listed on their website. Make sure you have eye protection and use the neutralizer.


http://www.odoriteusa.com/products/chem/carpet4.html#pop

 

[Shawn Forsythe]

"Check out Don Terry's spotting chart- under bleach. http://flooringinspector.com/page/15sio/Links.html"
I don't see it Shawn.

http://www.baneclene.com/cspotprint.html

 

[ruff]

Ofer, stop in. I have all the sodium hydrosulfite you'll ever need.

Thanks Joe.
What do you use it for?

P.S. What's for lunch?

 

[Mikey P]

Great thread.


Shawn, would you like to write for our Main Page every so often?


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