Hot or cold water on human urine extraction?

[Axel70]

I have an older gentleman client that is incontinent and there are some places throughout his apartment where he has had accidents. I normally use HWE and Waterclaw on these spots with some Unchained. It works ok but I do see some people claiming cold water is better than hot on urine. Do any of you guys use cold water or know of any better methods?

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I have an older gentleman client that is incontinent and there are some places throughout his apartment where he has had accidents. I normally use HWE and Waterclaw on these spots with some Unchained. It works ok but I do see some people claiming cold water is better than hot on urine. Do any of you guys use cold water or know of any better methods?

If the urine is relatively fresh, you could can use cool or lukewarm water.

If you are using Unchained or other peroxide based treatments, very high temperatures could cause color loss when they react with the product. This is also possible with sodium chlorate based solutions (often called "chlorine dioxide").

You are at the most risk with wool (pretty unlikely in an apartment) or nylon (more likely if the carpet is old).

I'm pretty sure that odor is more of a concern at this point than dyefastness. Are you being payed by the landlord or by the tenant?

 

[Axel70]

If the urine is relatively fresh, you could can use cool or lukewarm water.

If you are using Unchained or other peroxide based treatments, very high temperatures could cause color loss when they react with the product. This is also possible with sodium chlorate based solutions (often called "chlorine dioxide").

You are at the most risk with wool (pretty unlikely in an apartment) or nylon (more likely if the carpet is old).

I'm pretty sure that odor is more of a concern at this point than dyefastness. Are you being payed by the landlord or by the tenant?

Tennant. It's Poly carpet, and you're right odor is the main concern. So far it's working ok but not perfect so I'm interested in what others are doing in similar situations.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

Tennant. It's Poly carpet, and you're right odor is the main concern. So far it's working ok but not perfect so I'm interested in what others are doing in similar situations.

You'll get plenty of good advice here.

With human urine, there is a great deal of volume of liquid involved, and thus far deeper penetration into carpet cushion and the subfloor.

I find the issue involved is less the product being used than making sure that the product that you choose to use reaches everywhere the urine has.

Frankly, if there are repeated urine intrusions from an adult human, it really should be time to consider replacing the carpet and cushion.

 

[Axel70]

You'll get plenty of good advice here.

With human urine, there is a great deal of volume of liquid involved, and thus far deeper penetration into carpet cushion and the subfloor.

I find the issue involved is less the product being used than making sure that the product that you choose to use reaches everywhere the urine has.

Frankly, if there are repeated urine intrusions from an adult human, it really should be time to consider replacing the carpet and cushi

 

[Axel70]

I agree! I'm just going to keep doing the best I can and not sweat it too much!

 

[BIG WOOD]

I clean f0r an elderly gentleman who has bladder issues about every 3 months. Carpet, tile, LVT, and upholstery on that job. The hotter the better when it comes to odor removal. I know it's impossible to kill all the bacteria, but killing some of it is better than none. This place is rank when I get there, and the odor is mostly gone when I leave.

So I'm voting for hot is better than cold. And mixing up sodium per carbonate in with the treatment with hot water is always good

 

[Axel70]

I clean f0r an elderly gentleman who has bladder issues about every 3 months. Carpet, tile, LVT, and upholstery on that job. The hotter the better when it comes to odor removal. I know it's impossible to kill all the bacteria, but killing some of it is better than none. This place is rank when I get there, and the odor is mostly gone when I leave.

So I'm voting for hot is better than cold. And mixing up sodium per carbonate in with the treatment with hot water is always good

Thank you, thats great advice!

 

[Rick J]

Well, not really any to add on what/ how,

but , finding the specific areas, use a black light, ? or just hammer the whole place?
Wondering if much different than a pet? I know black lights are limited when looking for it on polys, and olefins., as it does not bind to the fiber and tends to run down into back, and pad.

 

[Axel70]

Well, not really any to add on what/ how,

but , finding the specific areas, use a black light, ? or just hammer the whole place?
Wondering if much different than a pet? I know black lights are limited when looking for it on polys, and olefins., as it does not bind to the fiber and tends to run down into back, and pad.

I treat spots with rtu Unchained and then also add it to my pre-spray, so I'm doing both really.

 

[roro]

Flush with tepid or cool water. Why increase the odour problem by cleaning with heat unless you like basking in the fumes.

 

[hogjowl]

I’ve never experienced any difference between using hot or cold water on urine/odor treatment.

 

[they live]

Water temp will depend on the product you use. Some products need higher temps to activate.
Get a probe moisture detector. It will tell you where to use more product. Make slower passes in those areas with pretreatment and rinsing.

 

[Luky]

Flush with tepid or cool water. Why increase the odour problem by cleaning with heat unless you like basking in the fumes.

Make sense( to lower water temperature). I'm blessed
( cursed? ) with customers that need help with urine treatment ( human and pet) I'm no stranger taking care of #1, #2, and #3 sometimes in combination. The worst of the worst are cats finding their way into the walk-in closets . I've tried many products among them CTI' s OS-1 , Un-duz-it, Bio- release, Skunk-out, and Joedorcide. I also tried CTI Odor modifier, and rest of their urine treatment products.
Bio-release, Joedorcide and USR multi-phase by Clean Master are my favorites. Urine removal requires a lot of patience, especially when homeowners are not planning to get rid of their carpet. Spray, stomp it, let it dwell, rinse, extract ( water claw helps), and repeat. In acute cases , I shoot a few oz. of urine treatment with a syringe in the padding. I always take time to dry the surface ( did I mention patience?) I have to confess that after all that, I use disinfectant ( always along the baseboards ) I believe that Axel70 will improve over time, will trust his instincts, and urine removal becomes his second nature.
I apologize in advance to those who might have a problem with my " poetry" .

 

[Rick J]

I really like USR, and Multiphase as well.

The USR. Reminds me of. De-urinizer which was by Chemeister. . Back in the day.

I refrain from talking about products likes and looks like , but apparently the dam broke l o l

Product out now by bonnet pro is yellow lava which I find effective.

 

[they live]

Molecular modifier is my go to for cat urine. Has been for a long time. Have to soak the walls and baseboards too.
Its good for strong dog odors too. Not just urine but for that oily dirty fur smell.

 

[they live]

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