Ken Snow said:ditto what ozman said. we can wash and hang 250-400 rugs a day with 3 men operating the moor washer/wringer/hanging system. adding 5-10 minutes a rug and the labor to handle them would not be practical except for possibly certain rug applications. For rugs that need it, fringe treament takes less than 2 minutes total for both ends of a 9X and less for smaller rugs and the rug is inspected as part of this as well so it is getting that additional benefit.
Brian H said:David, uh, ....never mind. Since you have never seen our operation, you wouldn't understand and we will always be "hacks" in your mind.
The Great Oz said:The spin extractor is a practical tool that will increase efficiency at a certain point of rug plant volume. Once you have that volume, money spent on improving efficiency pays back quickly. If had a small plant I'd consider buying one.
As far as cleaning goes, we have and will use every method in existence depending on what we think is best for the rug. We may pre-shampoo a few before sending them into the Moore, but I know for a fact that nothing we can do will get a rug as clean as the Moore will (and in a minute!). It's why I suggested the rinse cycle for the spin extractor, "clean" pit washed rugs would spin out loads of grime, something I've also noticed at many plants with a wash floor and wringer. If you observe a rug going into the wringer of a Moore, you don't see any grime running out of it. Don't take my word for it, find the nearest automated plant and ask for a tour.
There are a few a idle Moore machines available, but they would cost quite a bit to buy, move and install. You have to be certain of your volume before making that commitment.
PS: Randy, the machines I referenced may not have been the latest models and those manufacturers may have addressed the issues. If they did it was due to competition (and maybe copying) from others.
:shock: :shock: For the love of god Ken are you on the marijuana?Ken Snow said:Randy we have lots of fringe issues, I am not sure where you got the idea we didn't.
rhyde said:Ken you know or should that there are issues that pop up in drying that aren’t apparent when a rug is wet not just fringe issues.
Ken Snow said:soryy to disagree with you randy, but if we run a rug through the ringer and air blow the fringe and kilim (which we do to all rugs), we can treat the fringe and dry flat with air movers or on a free standing rack overnight and in the case of thin rugs they can even be ready for pick up the same day 6-9 hours later.
The Great Oz said:but I know for a fact that nothing we can do will get a rug as clean as the Moore will (and in a minute!).
The Great Oz said:PS: Randy, the machines I referenced may not have been the latest models and those manufacturers may have addressed the issues. If they did it was due to competition (and maybe copying) from others