The drying equipment has been in my possession for a # of years prior to your butties ownership of Dri Eaz...
Here is an idea worth considering, Mike...
Now do you see why we dont have banners here?I know there are still some users here that still dont quite get it.
I would hope that the recent actions on ICS have finally made it real clear as to what would happen here if I/we grew dependent on the Banner's income.
I really hope all of you see the value of what Lisa, Tony, Jim, meAt, Richard, Bob, Dirk and myself have created here for you. I really hate to have to bribe people with extra rooms to try and get them to help out here financially. I wish they would see the whole picture and believe the whole board is worth the five bucks...
As Connections draws near and our need for even a bigger and better truly dedicated server, your financial supports is needed.
When I look at the top posters here, I cant but help get a little erked that some still don't see the true "Value" here..
Re: My Agenda...
Like most people, Mikey's agenda changes over time.
Originally, there was no defined agenda, just a place for Mikey to post since he had been banned most everywhere else.
Then as MB grew, I believe that the primary agenda was to have a place where free speech was paramount. As regular Carpet Cleaners it was clear that there needed to be a place where BOTH the positives and the negatives of any equipment, product, method or accessory could be freely discussed. But info alone is pretty cold and boring, MB brought loads of warm and fuzzy entertainment too.
When banners appeared here, some feared that the free speech would be compromised but their fears did not materialize, imo.
The sole purpose of a manufacturer owned board is to promote it's own products and to suppress info about competing products. ie, Recoil board, Encapboard and Padderland. This is going to be T M F's greatest single obstacle to long term growth if they remain a supplier.
The sole purpose of ICS and Cleanfax boards are to make money through advertising and to promote their own brand/magazine and supporting advertisers. Look at where they are now.
Yes these Forums are free for us to use but NOT "free" in the information given out - it is controlled, DUH.
Have you EVER read an article in any trade magazine that is in any way critical of ANY chemical, truck mount, school or portable. Can you blame them?
Free info is anything but credible and if it is not trustworthy info what is it really worth?
Do you believe every word of every product brochure you read?
Do you ever buy anything without getting a second opinion or doing a bit of research?
Mikeys agenda is education pure and simple.
Hope you have a great 'cabin' weekend!
Don't forget to have Huevos Rancheros at Peg's Glorified Ham n Eggs in Reno on the way home!
So that's what all the whispers and cute comments to Chuck and Terje is all about Jim?
I didn't stay to my "Business plan" of six years ago?
Should I also be looked down upon because I've grown my cleaning business? Home owners no longer are guaranteed to get me so in your O/O eyes I must be the blowing it (or going sideways in your words) there too. Do you hold everyone to these standards or just me?
Sorry to let you down ol' buddy but you see I don't have a sugar momma and I have kids and employees to keep in mind. I don't get to call it a day after one or two jobs and go home and tinker in my garage. I have to keep innovating and growing.
Amazing.
You told me that you hate SS because they screwed some friends of yours? Are these the same friends who you sold your shitty supply business to?
lets not go there... I would hate to break your so called confidentiality..
Or maybe it was you good buddy Brevik?, who according to him SS stole all his ideas...
Or was it Cu? Did he get screwed with his lemon or did he possibly just not get aggressive enough with his issues? You as a car guy should know all about lemons. Sorry Cu, it happens. Plenty of happy owners of your model out there..
Or was it John Olsen who got screwed? Did John get screwed or did John just chose to promote a company he had longer ties with? John is exactly where he wants to be in this industry, he does not need you to take up his battles.
How many customers have you lost over the year to less then perfect customer service? Never? Not one?
Now lets talk about how you handled Charlie Brown's biz when you bought it..
did you do everything the same as he did?
Did you faithfully service each and every one of his clients or did you dump some that were too far way, or were priced too low or maybe you just did not like them and life is too short? Did you keep all of his equipment up and running or did you fine tune what stuff you got to fit your business plan? Did people critique your every move to make sure they were all done morally and ethically to some false standards that only come true in make believe land?
You would have probably just said , **** you, I'll run MY business how I SEE FIT, if I know you..
but because
Sapphire is seen as some large mega million dollar company you and others here want to hold them to some weird standards that even you would not or could not live up to.
It's business Jim and it's a damn tough world out there for suppliers and manufactures right now, has been since 08 and it's getting worse. I think so of you well established guys forget or just don't realize just how bad things really are.
Prochem,
Hydramaster,
Butler, SS and who ever else is left are all struggling, and each and every single one of them will do WHAT EVER it takes to make a sale to survive so they can support their employees and customers.
I for one think they should be thanked for their innovation and for their support and participation on this forum where for them more then anything,
the agenda is education pure and simple