the End is Near

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  1. Mikey P
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    The real deal is going away when it comes to hard surface flooring.
    I cleaned for the owner of our nicest flooring shop in town the other day. He asked me to stop by and check out his shop. it was a bit of an unsettling experience seeing all the non absorbance choices.
    An amazing assortment of LVP caught my eye..
    https://shawfloors.com/flooring/vinyl/_/_/_/_/_/tile-and-plank
    The new PVC base/core LVP planks are now available up to 72" long. Other cool features include: It takes 35 planks to find a repeat, price is cheap, completely water proof, instillation can be performed by a YouTube trained husband with good knees and they look and feel amazing!
    Carpet will continue to go in bed rooms and and family rooms but for hard floor choices the home buying millennials wont be going ala' natural.
    Rug sales and cleaning should continue to grow and grow but the question is, will those rugs be hand tied wools or woven plastics?
    At least we wont have to worry about hacking them out in the home over those water proof planks.

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    Best to learn how to be a rug fag.
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    I'm still waddling from the last experience..
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    You sure?
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    Of the remaining share of the market retained by carpet more will be modules.
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    PVC core and vinyl top?

    How would a goober ruin that aside from the glue down variety...
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    water on the subfloor? Acid (and other chems) in rinse fn up finish?


    I know the odds of screwing up vinyl or the substrate are remote but I don't think I would take the approach that it was indestructible
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    Cost more to clean some of these rugs bought at Pottery Barn then just replace...glad I am retiring soon.
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    I don't think they are buying "nice" rugs. They want colors that match their furnishings. Custom rugs are very popular, oriental styles are what your mother & father had.

    We still see a lot of Oriental rugs but more and more custom. Some wool but most just unique design.
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    Thanks Mikey, for me, this is a great post.

    It shows me what we'll be getting down under in the next couple of years.

    By then, many here will have posted on any problems they encounter, and how they've solved them.

    The terrible plank floors we currently encounter are completely unsuitable for their purpose, in my opinion.

    I can see myself now, in retirement, sitting on Whiskey all day long and still being able to drive to the store. :winky:

    Down under, in the tropics, more people are going for marble, tile & other flooring, except slate.

    Slate's :stir: without the stirring.

    Carpet is slowly going, except as you say in bedrooms & lounge.

    Many rental condo's now have no carpet.

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    Nonetheless, the LVP flooring will make a nice check-in area for my in-plant operation.
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    Less carpet = more rugs on hard floors. :winky:

    :very_drunk: :very_drunk: :yoda:
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    Residential carpet has been declining for several years. That trend will continue.
    Commercial carpet will maintain its segment of the carpet industry.
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    We can clean hard surface floors using our TMs.
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    These vinyl flooring products and the porcelain plank that's catching on fast still needs turbo-cleaning. The grout and the tile texture can still trap tons of dirt that won't mop well at all. As for the LVP...Nafco came out with this idea years ago and they all share one problem, If it's plastic is soft and will scratch. When it scratches the scratch fills with dirt and that dirt won't mop out. Micro abrasions will trap micro dirt as well and again mops just don't cut it. High pressure again wins out over chemistry alone.
    Another angle on this vinyl veneer is that in order to make it look real the manufacturer likes to engineer simulated grain and that will trap soils as well so get out your Turbos and clean like no one else can.
    I found that eventually your'e going to have to turbo-clean then wax over the floor to bring back the sheen when the abrasion has dulled down the traffic lanes. Not my gig but when a realtor is trying to sell the home and the seller doesn't want to replace the floor I get to come to the rescue at over $1 per square foot to renew with a high solids seal.
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    I forgot to remind everyone how the laminate "PERGO" world flopped but still keeps lingering even at .35 per square foot purchase price. The edges allow water, pet urine, most any liquids to contact the hydroscopic wood composite under the surface skin to absorb and swell making this product a stinker. One flood and it's over. Not restorable.
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    We noted that when it first hit the market. A lot of wasted money.
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    Does not help that the majority of residential stuff that does remain is likely going to be lower quality products sold with big warranties that are not worth the paper they are printed on.
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    So how do we clean this stuff? Its a grouted Vinyl plank floor. Its in a bar so it gets a fair amount of traffic. That used to be a light colored grout when they opened 6 month ago. The upstairs also has a wood look plank floor with no grout. According to Armstrong they dont like steam or excess water to clean it.

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