Health Care
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Ron Lippold
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yes 160 a month
Jim Martin
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I have health....life......
.....business disability and personal disability.......
.....business disability and personal disability.......
bob vawter
Grassy Knoller
Hey connOr...i thought you had FIVE kids.....
RichardnTn
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Uninsurable...VA Hospital...RR
SRI Cleaning
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Was around $190 with an individual plan with Aetna. I just added dental for $14 more.
yeah, i was wondering because i want to eventually go all in. The company i currently work for now, pays all my health care, dental, and matches 401k. i currently make parts for military aircraft, GE aircraft engines, Air buss, and aircraft braking systems. its fun but stressful. i have to hold tolerances of .0002. A human hair is .003 so just figure a human hair cut into 10 or more pieces. i like it but i like cleaning carpet and being my own boss better.
rhyde
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around 500.00 for the whole family.
my brother makes good money doing similar work for precision cast parts he's done many jobs there latest checks blueprints all day long with a calculator and slide rule
my brother makes good money doing similar work for precision cast parts he's done many jobs there latest checks blueprints all day long with a calculator and slide rule
Brad_Smith
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bluecross = over $1k a month for me, wife, 1 kid. Wife is diabetic so we have to have a group plan to get insurance. went from $750 - $1k this year. Ouch! I feel like I work for the oil companies and health care.
hogjowl
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Serious question. Does the cost of, or unavailability of, health care make you more prone to vote for Obama in this election, so that the Democrats can have another go at passing universal health care legislation?
J Scott W
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Major medical type policy for my wife and I was about $360 per month. It did not cover routine doctor office visits and so forth, but did pay 80% of any charge over $1,000. That was in 2004.
The currently premium - paid by my employer - is in the high $700 range. This does cover doctor's visits with a co-pay.
Scott Warrington
The currently premium - paid by my employer - is in the high $700 range. This does cover doctor's visits with a co-pay.
Scott Warrington
Dion R
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Marty,
NO! What has the the government touched that decreased costs? The last thing I want is more government involvement. Universal health care is a bad Idea. You think taxes are high now? wait till the government gets involved in your health too.
NO! What has the the government touched that decreased costs? The last thing I want is more government involvement. Universal health care is a bad Idea. You think taxes are high now? wait till the government gets involved in your health too.
rhyde
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admiralclean said:
Why...? so they can do for health care what they've done for social security, Medicaid , veterans administration, welfare, failed energy policy, failed foreign policy
both parties stick it to us i won't be voting for either crook this fall
truckmount girl
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Uninsurable - no VA entitlement - not much dough in the bank - basically shit out of luck.
Yes. Every developed nation (and a few less developed nations) except us has universal health care for it's citizens of one type or another. It's about time we catch up.
Take care,
Lisa
admiralclean said:
Yes. Every developed nation (and a few less developed nations) except us has universal health care for it's citizens of one type or another. It's about time we catch up.
Take care,
Lisa
This is for "A little cleaner'. Are you on drugs, some serious ass drugs.
If you would take the time to actually pay attention you would see that under both Clinton's and Obama's plans health care cost will not go up.
Some of you people live under a rock...and I can almost guarantee anyone that would make a statement like that is a Republican that only listens to Crazy Rush and Dickhead Bill O'Reily.
My goodness.
DevilDog
If you would take the time to actually pay attention you would see that under both Clinton's and Obama's plans health care cost will not go up.
Some of you people live under a rock...and I can almost guarantee anyone that would make a statement like that is a Republican that only listens to Crazy Rush and Dickhead Bill O'Reily.
My goodness.
DevilDog
scott,
i worked for a company that made brake and fuel control systems for the aero space industry also.
i liked most of the work and use to hold.00005 tolerances between matching parts.i used to hone and lap parts and i ran a centerless grindr for a while too where we matched parts to the 50 millionths over about a 3 inch part.
i also ran lathes and screw machines.
my wife had insurance when i quit but she got layed off and hasnt picked up insurance yet at her new job.i priced it through the chamber of commerce and was quoted about 400 month for blue cross blue shield.
doctor visits for us now cost $70 and most prescriptions you can get for $4 at wally world. weve been to the doctor twice in 6 months so far but i know im treading on thin ice.
i worked for a company that made brake and fuel control systems for the aero space industry also.
i liked most of the work and use to hold.00005 tolerances between matching parts.i used to hone and lap parts and i ran a centerless grindr for a while too where we matched parts to the 50 millionths over about a 3 inch part.
i also ran lathes and screw machines.
my wife had insurance when i quit but she got layed off and hasnt picked up insurance yet at her new job.i priced it through the chamber of commerce and was quoted about 400 month for blue cross blue shield.
doctor visits for us now cost $70 and most prescriptions you can get for $4 at wally world. weve been to the doctor twice in 6 months so far but i know im treading on thin ice.
Dion R
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Devil Dog
You are right I am Republican. DO not confuse that with me liking everthing the Republican party does nor with disliking everything a Democrat does. If McCain had a Universal healthcare plan I would be against it, just as I was against Romney's ( my preferred candidate)Mass. Healthcare plan. Nor do I live under a rock. I understand what is being proposed and I disagree with it. I am against government interference. While I don't think it is truly possible to have a health plan with out raising health care costs I do beleve it is NOT possible to do so without raising taxes. I am surprised that as a business owner you are for what could be arguably called an entitlement program. Social security is in trouble because, in part, there will be more people drawing from it than putting in to it. That is a drop in the bucket compared to what will happen with the Health care. A significant portion of the population is aging and soon to be retiring. They will NOT be putting money into the program but they will draw from it. Just as the current work force cannot sustain Social security benefits it will not be able to sustain Health Care WITHOUT raising taxes. I'm Canadian but left when I was in my 20s. The government at that time imposed an additional 8% tax on good and services above provincial tax. That means in BC where I lived everything had an 15% tax on it. Canada is now looking at ways to turn to the private sector to help with Healthcare costs.
Anyway, From under a rock, Dion
You are right I am Republican. DO not confuse that with me liking everthing the Republican party does nor with disliking everything a Democrat does. If McCain had a Universal healthcare plan I would be against it, just as I was against Romney's ( my preferred candidate)Mass. Healthcare plan. Nor do I live under a rock. I understand what is being proposed and I disagree with it. I am against government interference. While I don't think it is truly possible to have a health plan with out raising health care costs I do beleve it is NOT possible to do so without raising taxes. I am surprised that as a business owner you are for what could be arguably called an entitlement program. Social security is in trouble because, in part, there will be more people drawing from it than putting in to it. That is a drop in the bucket compared to what will happen with the Health care. A significant portion of the population is aging and soon to be retiring. They will NOT be putting money into the program but they will draw from it. Just as the current work force cannot sustain Social security benefits it will not be able to sustain Health Care WITHOUT raising taxes. I'm Canadian but left when I was in my 20s. The government at that time imposed an additional 8% tax on good and services above provincial tax. That means in BC where I lived everything had an 15% tax on it. Canada is now looking at ways to turn to the private sector to help with Healthcare costs.
Anyway, From under a rock, Dion
DevilDog said:
Hussein himself says that the costs under his plan would go up by 50-65 BILLION dollars per year. That is after deducting hypothetical savings that he claims we'll receive by improving efficiency under his system. So you can count on it being even higher because the government has NEVER improved the efficiency of anything, that it has taken over.
Honestly I don't know why you wouldn't like O'Reilly either he gives VERY favorable coverage to Hussein. That is one of the reasons I don't like O'Reilly is he handles Hussein with kid gloves.
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our healthcare sucks in the USA, just watch Sicko.
I'm just curious, what makes anyone think that health care will not go up, everything goes up?
My lovely wife holds hope for national health care, and it is indeed a basic human need, but I'm not sure I want to pay for everyone's health care.
Remove the frivolous malpractice claims and health care will be affordable for everyone without any taxation. And yes I have to echo, the Gov't has never done anything "better" than the private sector.
My lovely wife holds hope for national health care, and it is indeed a basic human need, but I'm not sure I want to pay for everyone's health care.
Remove the frivolous malpractice claims and health care will be affordable for everyone without any taxation. And yes I have to echo, the Gov't has never done anything "better" than the private sector.
rhyde
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Greenie said:
In 1937 when the social security act was passed the tax rate was 2% today it’s 15.3% total employee employer withholding a nearly 800% increase for benefits that sill don’t provide enough for retired people and do people earn more or less than they did in 1937 ? A % of a salary is an automatic increase SS went 800% above that
Clearly something needs to be done my big concerns we end up like social security or worse
http://www.city-journal.org/html/17_3_c ... hcare.html
http://www.stanford.edu/dept/news/pr/92 ... c2208.html
Of course everything goes up...that is a natural. We are talking about how much it is going to go up.
If something is not done soon...you'll all be working a week to just pay health insurance cost.
Listen, the Republicans opinion on this does NOT matter. They don't care. I am tired of Right Wing Wack jobs yapping about things they are totally wrong about.
And by the way, if we were not spending hundreds of BILLIONS on a completely ridiculous war...we could afford a really good health care plan.
DevilDog
If something is not done soon...you'll all be working a week to just pay health insurance cost.
Listen, the Republicans opinion on this does NOT matter. They don't care. I am tired of Right Wing Wack jobs yapping about things they are totally wrong about.
And by the way, if we were not spending hundreds of BILLIONS on a completely ridiculous war...we could afford a really good health care plan.
DevilDog
Harry Myers
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I pay $903.76 full 100% coverage blue cross blue shield. Than i PAY FOR dental $75.06 .
The Preacher
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i didn't see tODDs answer to how much he pays, if at all???
Brad_Smith
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Todd do you really believe the dem's are less evil than the rep's. They all are evil. Come on your smarter than to be the dem's bitch.
I pay over a grand a month now and don't make big money. Yet I think the gov. needs to stay the F out. I don't know the answer, but the gov is not it. Look we are putting in 15% of what we make to SS and the return is low maybe arround 1%. Don't think health care will be better.
Lisa everyone is insurable. Fed law says group plans can't deny. Anthem (bluecross) only needs a group of 2. With an LLC you and Jeff are the 2 employees. Yes your rates will be higher but can't be more than 60%. My wife is type 1 diabetic and this is how we are set up. No problems for 3 years.
I pay over a grand a month now and don't make big money. Yet I think the gov. needs to stay the F out. I don't know the answer, but the gov is not it. Look we are putting in 15% of what we make to SS and the return is low maybe arround 1%. Don't think health care will be better.
Lisa everyone is insurable. Fed law says group plans can't deny. Anthem (bluecross) only needs a group of 2. With an LLC you and Jeff are the 2 employees. Yes your rates will be higher but can't be more than 60%. My wife is type 1 diabetic and this is how we are set up. No problems for 3 years.
gary mackay
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I have National Health Care - Naval hospital, USN retired. $460.00 per year. I was once a Canadian & it seems I am again. The government is very good about contracting out to the lowest bidder like the $7.95 per room guy. The civilian Dr's up there scare me. National health care will make us a 3rd world nation for sure.
