Ken Snow said:Dont' forget $5500.00 to have their name on your truck too!! Gotta admit that's a smart marketing move, but pity the dummy who pays that.
I'll take a couple of butlers with bells and whistles for the same or less cost, being able to do twice as many jobs in a day every time.
fred boyle said:Amen to that Ken
I bet Judson could build a dual wanding heat monster, install it in a cab forward and save you $25K over a
Limited Edition ( read who's gonna build me next generation ) $100K Vortex
Ken Snow said:Chris my young friend, you paid way too much imo, especially in this economy. I can get a Vortex size wrap for less than that and a van in the 2k range.
Ken Snow said:They are, and they only cost us about 1k for that. I've bee oricing wraps for years to see if the price would get closer to our cost to do it in paint and lettering.
fred boyle said:Amen to that Ken
I bet Judson could build a dual wanding heat monster, install it in a cab forward and save you $25K over a
Limited Edition ( read who's gonna build me next generation ) $100K Vortex
Leslie Judson Jones said:
rhyde said:Well,..Ken you situation is different. You have your minions you can send 2 guys out a box truck for rugs … I’m sure you run multiply pickup and delivery trucks daily, Multiply guys for residential & Multiply guys for commercial and have plenty of employees left over …basically your issues are far removed from a small owner he has the size and labor to separate these out so yeah a big truck makes no sense for you.
For us “small guys” running multiply services the “big truck” has simply made what some of us do much more efficient and adds extra value and income. it would be stupid for me to buy standard van like a butler to do a job across town only to run back to the shop to pick up rugs and since 90% of my business is rugs often multiply times back to the shop wasting time, fuel …money. We can do it all in one run with one truck. This is even more true for guys like Steve Frasier doing commercial work at night where they need to bounce from carpet extraction to encap to tile to hard surface carrying all the tools needed… floor scrubbers, burnishers, tile tools, wands, hoses they had to take two truck and now can do it all in one.
So take a standard “cheaper van” X by 2 even at lower acquisitions per vehicle you pay higher aggregate cost , insurance, maintenance, fuel, signage.
Chris Adkins said:rhyde said:Well,..Ken you situation is different. You have your minions you can send 2 guys out a box truck for rugs … I’m sure you run multiply pickup and delivery trucks daily, Multiply guys for residential & Multiply guys for commercial and have plenty of employees left over …basically your issues are far removed from a small owner he has the size and labor to separate these out so yeah a big truck makes no sense for you.
For us “small guys” running multiply services the “big truck” has simply made what some of us do much more efficient and adds extra value and income. it would be stupid for me to buy standard van like a butler to do a job across town only to run back to the shop to pick up rugs and since 90% of my business is rugs often multiply times back to the shop wasting time, fuel …money. We can do it all in one run with one truck. This is even more true for guys like Steve Frasier doing commercial work at night where they need to bounce from carpet extraction to encap to tile to hard surface carrying all the tools needed… floor scrubbers, burnishers, tile tools, wands, hoses they had to take two truck and now can do it all in one.
So take a standard “cheaper van” X by 2 even at lower acquisitions per vehicle you pay higher aggregate cost , insurance, maintenance, fuel, signage.
I could be wrong, but I don't think Ken was arguing the Vortex, we got sidetracked into discussing the wrap on my Chevy van...
Chris Adkins said:actually that was the second hijacking, now on to the third, looking like Pizza at the moment...ol' ladies' at the new house cleaning, I just got back... mmmmm.... pepperoni.
Nate The Great said:[quote="Chris Adkins":1qeznm67]actually that was the second hijacking, now on to the third, looking like Pizza at the moment...ol' ladies' at the new house cleaning, I just got back... mmmmm.... pepperoni.
Chris Adkins said:Nate The Great":1fft34xa][quote="Chris Adkins":1fft34xa]actually that was the second hijacking said:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pepperoni[/url]
I do like turkey bacon for breakfast. My friend calls it fakin bacon!
Chris Adkins said:. I could be wrong, but I don't think Ken was arguing the Vortex, we got sidetracked into discussing the wrap on my Chevy van...
Ken Snow said:I'll take a couple of butlers with bells and whistles for the same or less cost, being able to do twice as many jobs in a day every time.
rhyde said:Next time read the whole post. Regardless the point isn’t that Ken is wrong particularly for his company but some of us benefit from a truck that can prvidde multiply services and carry the tools without having to run back to the shop 5 times a day.