Anyone want to help me bid a high rise?

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  1. Matthew Sturgis
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    I have heard all you guys talking about VLM and for the most part I have ignored it. Just because there was not a demand from my customers and I don't have a crew to take on huge commercial work all the time.
    I do have an opportunity to put in a bid on a high rise condo where I work for a tenant and would like to get more residential work.

    I have quickly read and learned that the Cimex is probably the fastest way to go.
    I have 10 floors to clean with carpet. 26,000 sq ft total. So about 2,600 sq ft per floor.
    If a person knows what they are doing they can almost clean a floor an hour right?
    I do not currently have a helper. I have no idea how to run a cimex. Hell I don't even own one.
    Will I be making frequent trips back down to the ground floor for more water?
    What, in your opinion, would be a good price per square foot?
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    This is condo and people currently live in it? Are each floors dedicated condos?
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    It's a building full of condos that people are living in. It's layed out like a hotel basically.
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    2600 an hour?

    Maybe if you dont pre vac, no spotting, electric outlets every 40ft, a utility sink on each floor and you have poor vision..
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    Guess I'll take my glasses off when I walk in...
    I didn't think about outlets. So that's good to know.
    There will be very little spotting. Over all the carpet does not look bad.
    How many gallons of water do you think you use per 2,000 sq ft?
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    Two hours a floor.

    Vacuuming when using low moisture is far more critical than it is when using hwe.

    Get (6) 5-gallon jugs and a small cart. Fill them up with water and leave them staged 2 per floor. Mix the chemical as needed. Refill when you run out of water.

    Cimex is a fairly simple machine. Go to your distributors and rent one. How close are you to Avantage? I think Bob Bonwell rents them.

    How much? What is their budget? 2600 x.12 is $312.00 a floor for 2 hours work.
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    Why not a OP? Like a Eco 17?
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    I would be cleaning the hallways on each floor. Not the individual condos. Sorry I was not clean on that.

    I am not sure. I really didn't know that was appropriate to ask.

    That sounds worth it to me. Other than I would essentially be working to pay for a machine that will sit in my garage until I learn how to market/sell commercial work and hire some help.
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    Around ten gallons per floor if its not dirty
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    Don't do it for the equipment. Do it for a profit.

    A 175 could be used with larger fiber pads and encap chemical. I'd do it with a rotary before I'd do it just to own a Cimex.
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    I agree. A Cimex hasn't even been on my radar. I just wasn't sure I could clean fast enough with a 175.
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    You can't and it won't clean as well. However if it's moderate soiling you can still do a fine job with a fiber plus pad and Encap juice.
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    That's a hell of a lot of work to do with a 175. I would buy a cimex and then start looking for other opportunities. Cleaning with a cimex is like a license to print money. Prevacuuming is critical
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    So is post padding on the gunky ones..

    Ron is correct, you'll look for more Mexible floors once you see how easy it is to do and to train others to do
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    I'd get an orbit vibe and a helper for that one job. The helper can prevac well, bring you solution, move a couple fans around. The vibe you can use for more than large commercial jobs. Tile, post padding, ect. Easy money. Very little learning curve involved.
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    Yes it is appropriate to ask. Sometimes I'll ask my customer those words, "On your yearly budget, how much has your staff reserved for carpet cleaning?" You'll be surprised how happy they'll respond to that answer. That gives you something to work with. If they throw out a huge number way over .12/sq ft., then you can price it a little higher than .12, yet under their max budget, and you'll make more money, yet save them some extra money as well. Both parties are happier.

    Once you get the cimex, you'll be more enlightened to search for more jobs like this. I did the same thing. If you get a big commercial job that needs HWE, then bring the cimex with you and do the areas that aren't that dirty, and HWE the really dirty areas. You've saved time and got more experience using it. It's a win win for you. But like always, look for a used one if this is your first one. When you get a lot of work where another cimex is needed in the future, then get a new one
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    A PREVAC is essential to encap/SCAMPOOING.
    It alone removes 75% of the dry soil.
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    That's an interesting idea. The machine looks well built. It's not much cheaper than a Cimex but like you said you said I could get more use out of it.
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    A number of months back, I took the advice of some of the old goats here. I bought a used Cimex, and have already made back close to 10x the money.... it’s like mowing a lawn... the highest per hr average I’ve made off of carpeting so far, has been with the Cimex. You can almost hear the money falling into your pocket...
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    Advantage is 2 hours away. My local distributor can rent me a 20'' BP. I dunno... I encapped a small office with my 10" BP once. I would think a post pad would be necessary for these hallways. My distributor disagrees.

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