Marty, you haven't seen a 1200 up close have you..
It's as easily serviceable as a Butler imo.
I think all 4 PTO choices are fine units. Pick the color you like best.
Very few people HAVE seen one up close. I'm reading, probably here, that their layout is not as space saving as the 4.8.
Well I must say, I wasn't a big fan when Saphire came out. I thought their design was less than desirable and rattled like hell. I thought they weren't going to make it especially since they looked like they were going after Prochem who ruled the space for quite some time. Heck I'm not even a big fan of the baby blue color. All that being said, since purchasing the unit based on Jim Martin's recommendation, Rick Aranda's customer service and having a local distributor, I am more than pleased. Granted I only have a little more than 60 hours on it but it runs like a tank. I came from a Powermatic and was scared that the heat would not be comparable but it as hot or hotter than my Steamway. My 570 is a solid design and I expect it to out last my part time cleaning career. The two year warranty from Saphire is icing on the cake .
Very few people HAVE seen one up close. I'm reading, probably here, that their layout is not as space saving as the 4.8.
I've had my ear to the ground for some time on the Pro1200 train track.It's way too quiet for comfort.
Ignore Marty.
I just got a new Pro 1200. Good machine. As previous posters said, you cannot compare Pro 1200 to the 570. You can compare it to a CDS or a Butler.
It produces plenty of heat and suction.Given I am not a fire breather fan. Psi control is a work in progress as unlike the CDS it does not have a water box, so it will not go lower than about 275 psi. Also controlling the dwire (solution) meter is hard when machine is in medium (it has low,medium,& hi). I can and do work with all doors locked (hole in side door step (not in door.)
Design is not super space saver as in the CDS, however once I got it figured out and put everything in it's right place, I pretty much got almost as much space as the CDS (my other van). Plenty of storage room in a non extended Chevy. I do have the L recovery tank + electric hose reel. No solution reel or water pond.
Hope this helps.
Marty
Since it seems you want to hear from us on this subject, even though you don't trust us. Here you go.,,,.,,
Please do us all a favor and choose one of our competitors products. I can't see you ever being satisfied.
As for why you don't hear from a ton of Sapphire TM owners it's because they are out enjoying the profits generated by their Sapphire truckmounts, Dri-Eaz water damage equipment, as well as Unsmoke, Microban and Chemspec chemicals.
Oh and as a final comment Legend Brands have been in the industry for over 34 years and unlike our competitors are run by folks with real world experience
Enjoy the rest of your summer
Wow Pigsnot that was really profound.The day that free and open discussion is suppressed here is the day this board becomes no better than the others that have died from lack of participation.
And when Ofer and Art can prove that they have never said anything negative about a tool, chemical or mfg. is the day I'll start listening to their Foster tantrums.
I'm wanting to get away from slide ins due to the heat. A Sapphire slide in may cut down some on the heat, since it won't have a #4 propane heater in the back, but I'll still have the lawnmower engine heat. Plus, with the Sapphire slide in, just like the Prochem units, you have everything crammed into a small space. Having a problem and driving the TCS and having them fix it in a day would be out. Heck, it'd take that long to get into the thing and find out the problem, much less repair it.
The only reason I am slightly hesitant to purchase the direct drives that TCS sells is because:
Cleanco is out of Canada. How long would it take to get repair parts to Atlanta?
Sapphire (Pro 1200) is a great unknown ... as described above.
If I wanted another slide in, there is no question that I would simply go up to TCS and purchase one.
I may still end up there anyway.
But, Jon-Don is right around the corner with the 4.8, and all that lovely space and proven track record.
And ... Butler wants my business and they're used to long distance pita customers.
What's a drama queen to do?
My boys HATE to hear that...you look like your pops there Sam
Lastly Marty, Bill B.'s using reverse psychology on you bro! He really wants you to get one.
The www.Sapphirescientific.com website say's the 1200 will go up to 14 inches of lift with 400 cfm, and the 570 will do 16 inches of lift with 455 cfm.
I wonder if one is with the wand on the carpet and one off? why the bigger blower wont do more???? than the smaller blower. 570 win's the stat war.
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you look like your pops there Sam
I don't think you'll find anyone more anal retentive than Ofer. If it's good enough for him, it's good enough for you.
And when Ofer and Art can prove that they have never said anything negative about a tool, chemical or mfg. is the day I'll start listening to their Foster tantrums.