Interview with Howard Partridge 1/8/2014

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First things first, thank you very much for agreeing to sit down and do a MB Hot Seat interview, this should be very informative and fun.

As you don’t need any introductions to the group here I’ll get right to it…

-How long did you actually clean carpet as an owner operator for, and did you have some experience as an employee first?

-and who was your first employee? Office help or a hose puller?

-What was the most beneficial move to get the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] truck rolling full time?

-How much time went by between your first carpet you cleaned to taking on your first protégé/student?

-On your way to the top, how many cleaning companies did your acquire and incorporate into Clean as a Whistle?

-How involved are you now in the day to day operations of CaaW?

-You currently run 10 On Location trucks, with two techs per truck? How many employees combined for CaaW?

-Would you please give us a breakdown of the percentages of CaaW’s profits?
  • On Location Carpet and Upholstery Cleaning
  • Hard Surface cleaning/Stone restoration
  • Rug Cleaning
  • Water Damage
  • Micro Seal

-Are your techs specialists or can any of them do all of the above?

-Currently, how many people do you currently REALLY mentor? (as in the have your cell phone and can call at any time?

-Do you regret not going Blue with your rug washing equipment?

-How much time do your personally spend with each Inner Circle member over a year's time?

-How do you deal with two competitors both looking to join the Inner Circle, or one already being “in” and another wanting in..

-How do you balance your time between family, exercise, CaaW, mentoring, Inner Circle and play time?

- What don’t we know about Howard Partridge?

-If you had access to the Necker Island Hot Tub who would be at the top of your list of living people (six seats available if I recall, I was so tipsy and star struck I can’t quite remember) to share the water with?

-Who or what companies do you consider your greatest success stories in terms of helping them find their way?

-What advice would you give a carpet cleaner who flat out refuses to grow beyond one truck with no helper?

Thanks Howard! Is there anything else you would like to add or say?
 
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As you don’t need any introductions to the group here I’ll get right to it…

Thank you.

-How long did you actually clean carpet as an owner operator for, and did you have some experience as an employee first?

I was a waiter when I started cleaning carpet with a Host machine out of the trunk of my car. I cleaned from 1984. I got up to around $360k per yar in 1996. At that time, I didn't do a lot of cleaning, but helped out on big jobs, etc.

-and who was your first employee? Office help or a hose puller?


My first employee was my busboy. We cleaned carpet in the daytime and waited tables at night for 3 years.

-What was the most beneficial move to get the 2nd truck rolling full time?


I did it ALL WRONG in the beginning. What you SHOULD do: Build a solid one truck operation with an assistant on the truck and someone in the office. You should be able to do $250k to $400k with one truck depending on a lot of factors.

-How much time went by between your first carpet you cleaned to taking on your first protégé/student?

I started helping other carpet cleaners in our local association about 17 years ago and started Phenomenal Products in 1998.

-On your way to the top, how many cleaning companies did your acquire and incorporate into Clean as a Whistle?

Early on I bought one guy out but he was only doing $40k and his list wasn't very good. Then in 1997, I brought on two partners. They were each doing about $100k each, so on April 1st 1997, we were at about $560k. That year we went to over $800k together. In 1998 we did $1M, 1999 $1.6M, then we went over $2M in 2000 and continued with incremental growth. January 1st 2005, I bought out my two partners. This past year we did just over $3M.

-How involved are you now in the day to day operations of CaaW?

Not involved in the day to day at all. The more time that goes by, the less I'm involved. My main role is supporting my 3 managers. They are very good at what they do. I coach them. I work out of my home and most of my time is invested with Phenomenal Products, Zig Ziglar, speaking, traveling, etc.

When I am in town, I stop by the office and visit with them. Sometimes I come to the weekly managers. Once in a while I'll go to the weekly staff meeting. When I have in town meetings, I meet at my office, so I get to see the staff then too.

And then my Phenomenal Products staff is there so I meet with them a little more often than CAAW staff. So, all in all I'm probably there twice a week for a couple of hours.

It is truly turnkey. I spent many years working on it to get it that way.

-You currently run 10 On Location trucks, with two techs per truck? How many employees combined for CaaW?

We have 40 staff between both companies. Phenomenal Products has 5 and the rest are CAAW, so 35.

-Would you please give us a breakdown of the percentages of CaaW’s profits?

We don't track "profit" per category necessarily, other than when we are pricing our services, but I'll give you the sales breakdown:

On Location Carpet Cleaning 47%
Upholstery Cleaning 11.1%
Hard Surface cleaning/Stone restoration 15.7
Rug Cleaning 17.44
Water Damage ZERO!!! (We focus on high end residential only)
Micro Seal 8.98%


-Are your techs specialists or can any of them do all of the above?


Many of my techs can do all. The newer guys do carpet first, then upholstery, then move into the other areas.

-Currently, how many people do you currently REALLY mentor? (as in the have your cell phone and can call at any time?

Very few. I have coaches that work for me now. I mentor them, and I have some local facilitators that I mentor and about 15 clients that call me on my cell. I don't take on private coaching anymore, but some members qualify for one day with me. I only do groups I have a very high end group, a middle group and our main coaching group. We have 246 people going through our main coaching program right now. About 50% of them are in the cleaning industry.

-Do you regret not going Blue with your rug washing equipment?

Ha ha. Not touching that with a ten foot pole!

-How much time do your personally spend with each Inner Circle member over a year's time?

Some members get a one day with me and I get to know them real well. Also, I do a weekly webinar where they can ask me questions every week. We do a two day member orientation at our shop with about 20 people at a time, so I get to know them there, and we have 4 quarterly events. I facilitate the middle and high end group, but all through the event, I hang out with members. We hang out at the beach, and have a lot of fun.

In fact, at our Destin Dream Retreat we had a sandcastle building contest, and I was right there with them the whole time. We love our members and build a real sense of community. Our members love each other too. It's amazing to see them bond like they do.

-How do you deal with two competitors both looking to join the Inner Circle, or one already being “in” and another wanting in..

We don't allow local cleaners to join for obvious reasons. We have many people from other coaching programs. Some of them have become very close friends. I don't really even think about that anymore because what we have really works and people are happy with it. Working with Ziglar, Maxwell and those guys, I get exposed to lots of other groups and I don't consider any of them competition. People need to find the right fit for them. People want to belong to a group that has the same values as they do. So, after searching around, people eventually find the group they gel with.

-How do you balance your time between family, exercise, CaaW, mentoring, Inner Circle and play time?

Scheduling. I don't work at night except for doing networking online like this (beats falling asleep in front of the tube). My wife is watching TV right next to me. My son is in college. So, I schedule appointments at certain times of the day, and I have certain blocks of time that I write, etc.

Believe it or not, I sleep 7 or 8 hours a day. I go to bed about 9 or 10 and get up at 5 (because I want to). I take a nap in the sun everyday (therefore the tan), and I don't do ANY work on Sunday. I got to church and play basketball. Saturday night is date night with my wife. Since I have a turnkey business, I can pretty much go on "vacation" anytime. We take a few exotic trips each year and we have a condo in Florida. Sometimes I go great places for "work" too. This summer Tom Ziglar and I spoke at Cambridge University, and I went over to Greece for a week after that to stay at a friend's house. Then I went to St. Thomas with John Maxwell's group.

Don't get me wrong, I work hard, but most of my work is writing, planning, and speaking or teaching.

- What don’t we know about Howard Partridge?

You probably don't know that I have a coffee pot named Wilson. And believe it or not, I'm just a regular guy that loves to hang out.

-If you had access to the Necker Island Hot Tub who would be at the top of your list of living people (six seats available if I recall, I was so tipsy and star struck I can’t quite remember) to share the water with?

(Hmmm.... you went to Necker Island?)

-Who or what companies do you consider your greatest success stories in terms of helping them find their way?


How much time do you have?

We could start with Eric Sprague and Larry Wilberson in California. We helped them quadruple their restoration business. Then because of too much work I had to help them get it organized!

Tim Killman and his wife worked on the truck for 28 years, and now they are off the truck and making more money.

Gary Mizrachi, a cleaner in Maryland doubled his business this year. We have so many, it would take all night.

It just works. Of course, there are all the ones who started with me years ago. The ones who continue to work the program have more and more success over the years. Like John Browning and John Torres. John Braun is doing what he does because the Inner Circle helped him get his cleaning business organized enough that he didn't have to do the cleaning. The list goes on.

-What advice would you give a carpet cleaner who flat out refuses to grow beyond one truck with no helper?


If that is what you REALLY want, I don't have a problem with it, but if you are "settling" for that because you are afraid to give up control, or your afraid of employee nightmares, you'll never be happy.

Everyone needs to determine what they really want in LIFE first. Then believe that you CAN accomplish it. Others have already done what you want to do. There is a way, but all growth comes outside of the comfort zone. You need to have a vision, you need to have business skills and you need to be willing to work through difficult situations so you can finally reach your dream. That's what we teach people to do.

Thanks Howard! Is there anything else you would like to add or say?

Yes. Don't let stinkin' thinkin' keep you from success. Several years ago I was part of a local group of carpet cleaners.They complained that customers wouldn't pay their price, the economy, etc. I showed up wearing a tie and a positive attitude and they laughed at me and said "Who do you think you are, Zig Ziglar or somebody?" I didn't even know Zig at the time. As it turns out, I'm their exclusive small business coach and the last chapter of Zig's very last book was based on my quote: "The ONE and ONLY reason your business exists is to be a VEHICLE to help you achieve your LIFE GOALS.

Don't let anyone steal that from you. Make a decision to pursue your dream regardless of what the naysayers say and you may find yourself sitting on a tropical island sipping a mai tai instead of cleaning out a nasty waste tank. Whichever you would prefer to do is your choice.

My story and my work is to show you that you can everything you want in life.

Thanks for the opportunity to share.
 
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My Necker question was more of a "Who would you like to be stranded on a desert island with" inquiry. .

Thank you Howard, please don't be a stranger to TWGCCF..

it really is an amazing place once you get through the doors..
 

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Gary hired me almost 20 years ago to grow his business when he was in olney Maryland..he wasn't ready to have a business so it didn't last long..really happy he got it figured out and is doing good

Thanks for sharing..

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A question I would most like to know is what are the success numbers of all is paying/paid members since his beginning, over time and up to now. Howard has been outspoken that his strategy "works". I'm not talking about their actual gross $$ numbers but rather the % of improvement (and no improvement) of folks who have paid/attended and continue to attend. He mentions a few individuals whom I don't know or will ever know. The actual stats of his members would tell me everything. Don't care how many binders or CD's I get, where or how often he sun tans. Like to hear him talk statically about the fruits of his members, all the members over time.
 

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Having been part of Howard's Inner Circle since the very beginning, I can say I've personally known MANY guys that more than double their business as a direct result of Howard's system. As already mentioned, John Torres and John Browning clearly more than tripled their business. George Grijulva, Billy Sample, Dave Deblander, Cory McCook, Michael Leblanc, James Takacs, Lee Lewis, Ed Dillon and dozens of others I've personally known have either at least doubled their business or had major strides in managing their business.

Will being part of Howard's program or any program guarantee success? No! Like Dave Gill said above, some guys aren't ready for success or don't want to do what it takes to be successful.

But if you want the system, if you want the coaching, it's there for the taking.
 

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ooohh gosh, I don't think George Grijulva should be included in any bragging list.

[video=youtube_share;nsQtXTNFZjM]http://youtu.be/nsQtXTNFZjM[/video]



I'd be surprised if George of all people on god's green earth could not make it in the MLM world but from the sounds of it, he gave up on running a carpet cleaning business.


but odds are the Monavie dream has crashed as 99.4% of all MLMs do, and he is still on the truck.
 

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Howard if you have time for another question besides the "What six people would you like to be stranded with"..

-Please list the top 3 marketing ideas of all time that you yourself have created, implemented and shared.


Sorry, that really should have been in the original interview..
 

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Wow...you guys sure like to spend a lot of time tracking George. I talked to him a few months ago and he's still running his cleaning business and doing well.
 

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George and I had a real special relationship John.

I do believe he was the proud owner of the World's Longest Run On Sentence here on MB
 

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Billy Sample was a large cleaner in Wichita Kansas, we sold him (4) Prochem Peformers back in our distributing days. He got divorced and moved and since then I've seen both Joe & Howard taking credit for his growth. :eekk:

I'm sure they helped him but he already knew how to build a pretty good business in the Wichita market.
 
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Howard thanks for coming on and doing the interview. You mentioned your coffeepot Wilson (have you switched from the French Press) but you forgot to mention what you put in it. The other Howard might feel slighted.
 

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George should use product placement and put bottles of Monavie all over the room when videoing those Checkmate Carpet Cleaning vids. Then grab a bottle pour it on the carpet and show how to remove Acai Berry stains
 

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I have mentioned many times here how much Howard has helped me grow my business along with many people he introduced me to. Through Howards events I had the pleasure of meeting Zig Ziglar, Michael Gerber, Rudy (from the movie) Tom Ziglar, Joseph Micheilli and many more. Howard is a first class guy and I am grateful for all he has done for me.
 
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Even the Navy Seal program publishes the graduation rate(%) of their school. Every professional public licensing program nationwide publishes their pass rate. So, how dismal is the actual number of carpet cleaners (not ones that sell grape juice or dream up some other source of revenue) that pay for and attend Howards program that "just works" achieve a muti-truck carpet cleaning business? Surely he has tracked the dismal rate of multi-truck success through and out his doors.

And how did Grape Juice Boy get into this thread?, MIKE !!!
 

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I doubt Howard can give an answer on how all his clients do with his program or can come up with a percentage . He gives out the information and his clients apply it but don't all report back to Howard on how they are doing. I talk to people all the time at Howards events and other industry events that tell me how well they are doing using his material but never make public statements about it. Another thing to consider is that not all of Howards clients are there to grow to multi level truck operations. Some are already at that level, I met one guy that does more revenue then Howards. Some guys want to stay small and are looking to just get information on how to track their finance's, systematize their office, train their tech's better. His events are also helpful because you get to be around very successful people and you learn from them as well.
 
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We have a 100% success rate of those who show up, learn and apply the systems. We can't MAKE anyone do anything.
 
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Noble, if I had the funding the Navy has and the fact that people give their life to be part of the Navy Seals, I'm sure we could publish that data for you. We have many, many, many success stories. They aren't hard to find.
 

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STARBUCKS of Course! The press leaves it too gritty for me. You should see my Starbucks Cup collection Bill.
 

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Yes Billy was successful in KS and had huge yellow page ads. When he went to Arizona, the stuff he was using wasn't working. My program was the right fit for him and he made so much money that he paid off his house and got debt free. He has testified many times that it was my program that did it for him. However, you are right Doc - HE implemented. That is the key.
 
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George, your still getting jacked up on the juice? Okay, so tell the folks what happened when you started using my program.... brand new to the industry. $107k in your first year. Now... if you stuck with me, you wouldn't have had to go back on the truck bro! You could have kept your employees even during the downturn. So, get off the juice and back in the circle! What happened to your hair by the way? T o much juice? (You know I'm messing with you, but I'm telling you the truth).

I love network marketing too, but you can't tell me that you would rather be cleaning up CAT PEE than sitting on a beach with Samantha dude. I'm sorry, but I guess the juice really messed up your head. LOL. (You know I love you even though your a little brat and you never paid me back for the $654.00 room service that you ordered for 4 people! (I couldn't resist). Give Sam a big hug for me. I miss you guys even though you CRAY!
 
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STARBUCKS of Course! The press leaves it too gritty for me. You should see my Starbucks Cup collection Bill.

Maybe you could show us a picture...

Im a coffee cup fan myself.


(notice how the "Reply With Quote feature works Howard, it makes it easier for readers to know what post you are addressing)


my current fave cup'o

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thats a cup I got from the Bridgeport Inn in the Eastern Sierra as a thank you for fixing their leaking water inlet at their cabin next to mine
 

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I agree you can't be held accountable for what the purchasers don't implement.

You are just a facilitator, the burden as well as the results rest with those buying the system (yours or anyone's).

If it's only going to collect dust sitting on a shelf it probably shouldn't be purchased, unless you just like collecting marketing material. :oldrolleyes:
 

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I hope I'm doing this right. I'm replying to each one of these posts, but I'm not sure which is a thread and which is a post. Plus, this takes a LOT of TIME! Can you pay me according to the number of minutes I spend replying to all of this? (JK)

Okay, it's VERY SIMPLE... For the LIFE of me, I don't know WHY people can't get this...

1. Position yourself so you can CHARGE MORE
2. Market to your client base ALL the time: Monthly by mail, weekly by e-mail and touch them on SM. Educate them and offer a referral reward when they refer you.
3. Build a network of referral sources. Why is that so hard???

Why would you do ANYTHING other than these 3 things until you've mastered them? I don't get it.

The only reasons I can think of... you aren't that good and people don't want you back, you aren't referable, you don't know how to do this stuff. You don't have a big enough WANT TO to make you go out and do it.

Sorry, I'm being so direct, but I'm getting old. George is right. I don't have rims or a sports car, but I can buy any car I want (my friends call my Lexus SUV a grocery grabber) and I'm more focused on changing lives and building my dream house on the beach.
 

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Maybe you could show us a picture...

Im a coffee cup fan myself.


(notice how the "Reply With Quote feature works Howard, it makes it easier for readers to know what post you are addressing)


my current fave cup'o

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thats a cup I got from the Bridgeport Inn in the Eastern Sierra as a thank you for fixing their leaking water inlet at their cabin next to mine

Thanks. If you come on the tour of my company at our upcoming conference Feb 6-8, you'll see the collection in my office.
 

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Okay, it's VERY SIMPLE... For the LIFE of me, I don't know WHY people can't get this...

I agree, I don't understand why people don't just visit a Barnes & Noble, Books A Million, Amazon or if you don't have the funds, the public library.

But then I guess that might cut into your Phenomenal clients if they did. :eekk:
 
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