emulsifier rinse mix

[Bob Foster]

All I want to use is good prespray and I love my Judson O2 system. But I am trying to use up my old inventory of pre-sprays and spotters. I can't believe how much crap I have. So on the B jobs I'm mixing up quite the cocktail of monkey piss.

I came across this 1/3 full bucket of Esteam Performance CBS. As I recall I was talked into this as a good substitute for Magic Wandcos Powdered Power. As I recall that turned out to be BS. So I thought I would do a little experiment on some nasties and use a small amount of emulsifier in my rinse tank. I'm still using my O2 prespray too.

In a 150 gallon rinse tank how much Esteam CBS powder would you toss in there?

What reason would you want to run an emulsifier in a rinse anyway if you use presprays? Someone once told me it softens the water a bit but I'm skeptical of that reasoning.


http://www.esteam.com/cms_files/1205858 ... ncecbs.pdf
http://www.esteam.com/cms_files/1214521 ... nceCBS.pdf

 

[Greenie]

only one reason....additional cleaning punch.

Save it for your restaurants.

As I recall that is one of Esteems better chems.

 

[Out of Character - 0]

Personally, 8-10oz. Using that little does clean well and isn't going to amount to much on the fiber. If you test your ph out of the wand you'll likely be at 7ish.

 

[Ron Werner]

I put about 8oz of CBS in the 5 gal mix jug, then meter it at about 1gal/min.
I use it only on the trashed jobs and restys that need a little extra kick

I used to put about a cup in my 200gal fw tank on the BIg Red , it did soften the water and gives that little bit of extra cleaning power. There's so little in the rinse water that there's hardly anything left on the carpet.

 

[Bob Foster]

I tried it on Saturday's restaurant. It seemed to work well. I had some left over from the restaurant so I used in a condo today and I think I could see a difference.

 

[CleanEvo]

I used to always use an acid rinse with my pre-spray. Then when I was "cleaning the closet", I was using all the old samples and stuff i'd tried, that's when i first tried using an emulsifier for rinse with pre-spray and it worked awesome. Then I posted it here and a lot of other guys mentioned that they have been doing it for a long time and it works well.

I have soft water here, so I mix the pre-spary a little lighter than recommded. I mix the emulsifier 1/2 strength and meter it at 2 GPH. Works great, cleans way better than before. I've been back to some places I've done and the carpet is soft and doesn't feel like it has any major residue. I did my own carpets as well and they have performed very well.

 

[Dolly Llama]

What reason would you want to run an emulsifier in a rinse anyway if you use presprays? Someone once told me it softens the water a bit but I'm skeptical of that reasoning.

don't know anything about the chem you mentioned.

but in "general"..

emulsifiers "condition" the water.
it enables you to flush/rinse better than water alone

It's always been my contention that the biggest and loudest proponents of "clear water rinse only" are those that don't have a reliable juice dispensing apparatus


..L.T.A.

 

[Chris A]

I like running an emulsifier on commercial, it seems to leave a more uniform appearance and will usually help take care of any post spotting. For residential, I still use an extraction detergent, but it's MB soapfree, so I dunno if that counts in your opinion.