Carpet Dye Pens.... Anybody use them?

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The ghost of Steve Mathie and the Ropers at bleachstain.com....... Those look like bingo markers
 

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Steve;

She is a very accomplished spot dyer.

With additional color pens,

she could have matched the color exactly.

She was just showing what an inexperienced dyer could do with 1 or 2 pens.

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WOW that woman is beautiful! What ever she's selling I'm buying it! :winky:

Mike have you asked her about coming out to Mikeyfest? I like the blotter much better than the eye droppers and mixing powders.

It does look like it does a decent job and most people would appreciate an improvement even if it's not 100% gone. I never got to take Tony's color repair class but everyone that did was impressed. Any chance he or she can put on a seminar for us?
 

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The dye pens are nice because they have all the prep chemicals in it(bleach neutralizer, ph stabilizer, etc) so they are ready to use on any bleach stain as long as it is a dyeable carpet. Richard you should attend one of her dye classes, Melody is a great instructor and makes her classes fun for the students. It's always a packed house when she comes here and she'll be coming back in Feb I believe.
 
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If they hold one near by I'll send someone. It definitely looks like an improved system however we get very few calls for it, so I can't justify any long distance travel for it. I'll send the video over to Dan and see if he wants to order in any product prior to a class.
 
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Does she teach the IICRC Color Repair Technician course? We'd love to get her to teach a class in or near Michigan. I have 4 techs needing this class and there are pitifully few offered for this mandatory course to achieve Master Cleaning Technician status.
 

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She has taught a one day class for us. She is very talented, as she should be growing up in the business in the David family, her father Don and uncle Ernie. And yes she is gorgeous with a personality to match.
 

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I think Jim Bethel and had drinks with her at connections a few years ago.


Or maybe that was Thom Feilding..I can't recall..
 
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Hi Guys,

The dye pens are great and easy to use. We consider them “The gateway dye” because once you start making money with them you’ll want to learn more about spot dyeing.

In the link below you’ll find my teaching schedule for 2014. (Note there is a class in Vegas after ICE expo, if you’re going) There are more classes being added daily so keep checking the site. http://www.americolordyes.com/carpet-dyeing-classes.php

If you can’t make it to one of these then consider taking a private class in Portland Or or having me come out to your location to teach your group of tech’s. Email me directly to discuss.

The class I teach is not a IICRC certified course, though you can get credits for the class. My class is different in that it is straight to the point, the manual is clear and concise, there is no test and the entire 2nd half of class involves hands on carpet samples. Its designed for cleaners who want to make money dyeing rather than just wanting certification. Students walk away from the class with the confidence and knowledge to begin spot dyeing immediately ( and often calling me the week after telling me about the easy money they just made )
 

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Ernie always thought the one-day class was too long and really suffered having to drag it into two days to fit the IICRC mandate. Good that Melody doesn't bother.

I took Ernie's half-day class a long time ago. It doesn't take long to understand the concept, Just know that if you're partially color blind (very common for men) you'll have a tougher time getting the results you want.

Take this test http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge to find your degree of color sensitivity.
 
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Bob Savage passed on to me a method using just blue and red dyes in two separate bottles for bleach spots. After some practice I got pretty good at it. After about 3 years I stopped doing it and looking back it was my own fault for sabotaging my own sales. I gotta resurrect this service; I know I'm leaving $$$ behind. If these Americolor folks are at ICE expo I'm going to pay attention to these "pens". They appear to be a bit more of a show that might push me to get back into selling it.
 

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I've been spot dying for years and I can't imagine having the right colors in these pens to match the carpet you need to dye. They may get close but I'd rather be closer. What happens to the fibers around the spot that doesn't need the extra color but will get it anyway. That's why we use eye droppers. To keep the dye on the bleached fibers only.
 

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I've been spot dying for years and I can't imagine having the right colors in these pens to match the carpet you need to dye. They may get close but I'd rather be closer. What happens to the fibers around the spot that doesn't need the extra color but will get it anyway. That's why we use eye droppers. To keep the dye on the bleached fibers only.

I agree, however I like using standard hand sprayers with primary colors. Eye droppers were just too slow.

Spot dying is a lost art...I do see this pen method as a perfect inroad to spot dying. Nice job Americolor!

Any opinions on bleach neutralizers? I had a couple of spots come back after using the salt water type a few years back. In the past I had used sodium thiosulphate and never had one come back on me until using the salt water. I think maybe it was mixed to light? I just received some sodium metabisulfate to play around with on a few bleach spots.

here are some before and afters using hand sprayers and sod thio as a neutralizer

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Melody "Dye Gal" David, are you still teaching the "grayscale" method to color correction?
 
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The theory is pretty basic and practice does make "perfect."

All color is made from the three primary colors: Red, Yelllow and Blue combined in different proportions.
The color has intensity ("color value" "Saturation") greys and blacks etc can help to match intensity. However, first you need to find out what are the missing colors and re-build the original color. Once that is done it will get pretty close and using the greys etc may help in blending with carpet.

So for example in the brown carpet turned yellow (bleach stain) the missing colors were red and blue. You mix these missing colors and apply first in lesser intensity and build the color up to the intensity you need (yes, experience) and then provide the other missing color same process till it matches. You do not have to use an eye dropper, I use syringes and it works better on smaller stains, you can also put the dye in a spray bottle if dying a large stain.

Bleach neutralizer is sodium bisulfite (reducing agent), in my experience it needs to be applied quite thoroughly so that it reaches wherever the bleach reached. Otherwise the color loss will happen again.

Once you practice more it becomes easier. The most common browns and greys etc. are not that hard.

Yes, not instant results, but did you become a great carpet cleaner over night?
 
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