Can this be repaired?
- Thread starter Living The Dream
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1900 North
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Yes. Take it to a reputable radiator repair shop.
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
There's more.
Living The Dream
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More bursts?
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Usually
Dolly Llama
Number 5
that would be my concern.
or weakened in areas that will leak later
take it to a pro radiator shop and let them evaluate/offer guidance .
..L.T.A.
Watched my heating /air guy just solder a hole in a bend like that.
Living The Dream
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I've almost got it removed. Should have it out by tomorrow. Time to go drown my sorrows.
Dolly Llama
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Lee Stockwell
FOJL
Silver solder.
NobleCarpetCleaners
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TIG silicon bronze
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Silfos 15
But don’t get this wrong, YOU ARE NOT FIXING THAT U FITING YOU NEED TO REPLACE THE FITTING.
Heat the fitting evenly on both sides and once it turns Red jiggle fitting out.
Sand the inside of the receiving pipes and sand new u fitting .
Heat the receiving pipe evenly until the metal starts flashing heat. Apply the Silfos rod to the metal not directly to the flame but to the metal and if up to correct temperature the silfos will be sucked down the outer diameter of the u fitting and seal between the u fitting and recieving pipes on the coil.
You will need a couple of hoses once repair is done to stress test the coil In order to check for any other cracks.
If just 1-4 cracks are visible go ahead and try repair aslong as it does not exceed 100-150 dollars for the atempt to repair l.
If 5 or more are visibly damaged you had a complete hard freeze and it is going to get expensive as I have to recommend changing all machine high pressure hoses, chemmeter, pressure pump, rebuild chem pump, quick disconnects and change out any thin brass in the system.
I did this last winter to one of my friends machines that lost power in their barn and the machine froze solid.
But don’t get this wrong, YOU ARE NOT FIXING THAT U FITING YOU NEED TO REPLACE THE FITTING.
Heat the fitting evenly on both sides and once it turns Red jiggle fitting out.
Sand the inside of the receiving pipes and sand new u fitting .
Heat the receiving pipe evenly until the metal starts flashing heat. Apply the Silfos rod to the metal not directly to the flame but to the metal and if up to correct temperature the silfos will be sucked down the outer diameter of the u fitting and seal between the u fitting and recieving pipes on the coil.
You will need a couple of hoses once repair is done to stress test the coil In order to check for any other cracks.
If just 1-4 cracks are visible go ahead and try repair aslong as it does not exceed 100-150 dollars for the atempt to repair l.
If 5 or more are visibly damaged you had a complete hard freeze and it is going to get expensive as I have to recommend changing all machine high pressure hoses, chemmeter, pressure pump, rebuild chem pump, quick disconnects and change out any thin brass in the system.
I did this last winter to one of my friends machines that lost power in their barn and the machine froze solid.
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Hack Attack
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When you guys talk about freeze damage at what outside temps do you start worrying?
Not uncommon to get about 28° F here if my conversion is right, 24°F would be classed as hard frost here never heard of a TM here freezing, further south and higher altitude gets colder though
Not uncommon to get about 28° F here if my conversion is right, 24°F would be classed as hard frost here never heard of a TM here freezing, further south and higher altitude gets colder though
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dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
It is not just temp but how long at that temp.
Installation of a couple of strategic valves throughout the system would limit most damage by reliving pressure any time feeezing is a concern.
But this would add a few dollars a year to replace the valves yearly that manufactures don’t want to add.
On our trucks I just add one upper valve and one lower valve to drain system to the point that if any water is left to freeze it has plenty of room to expand and can no damage to the system.
Installation of a couple of strategic valves throughout the system would limit most damage by reliving pressure any time feeezing is a concern.
But this would add a few dollars a year to replace the valves yearly that manufactures don’t want to add.
On our trucks I just add one upper valve and one lower valve to drain system to the point that if any water is left to freeze it has plenty of room to expand and can no damage to the system.
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Also you have to worry about a dumb dumb ding dong leaving the valve open and running machine out of water and ruining the pump.
Survival of the fittest or natural selection I guess.
Survival of the fittest or natural selection I guess.
Old Coastie
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I used to fix heat exchangers on the ship years ago. Simple to do, if you can silver solder, but a nightmare if you are not meticulous.
I agree with the suggestion to take it to a radiator shop. While there, you can have it properly descaled and flushed. Good luck.
I agree with the suggestion to take it to a radiator shop. While there, you can have it properly descaled and flushed. Good luck.
Dolly Llama
Number 5
parked in an attached garage, well below 25F before you have to heat the van
Outside, over night on a truck that worked that day and back out the next morning, unlikely anything serious will result at 25
Sitting for days at 25 and lower, all bets are off
even if a freeze, some times you can dodge a bullet if you get it completely thawed before engaging pump
at 28f, I'd personally have little to no concern on a truck that worked that day.
having said all that....they're expensive equipment.
I dare say most of us in cold winter climes without heated shops have been in Nick's shoes
Freeze damage once, you're a rookie
freeze damage twice, you're a retard....
..L.T.A.
Hack Attack
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Cool thanks, I leave an upholstery tool triggered open attached to outlet as a precaution. Frost has gone by 10am my locale and the suns out generally.
Used to kinda love frost fighting when in wine industry (first 3 of season were exciting fighting nature with machines) then developed tourettes and an attitude lol
Living The Dream
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I'm actually pretty cautious about cold weather and will usually winterize if I don't have anything lined up or it gets super cold. But in March when my Grandma got sick I purchased a plane ticket at 10 p.m. and flew out at 5 a.m. The weather wasn't terrible so I just stuck my heater with a thermostat at 40° and took off. But it ended up blizzarding and got super cold and 1 heater could not keep up. So in hindsight I should have just ran my antifreeze through it.
Living The Dream
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Anyone ever dealt with this orange shit before?
Dolly Llama
Number 5
looks like RTV silicone
razor knife or stiff blade 5 in 1 knife to slice and pry along the seam
..L.T.A
razor knife or stiff blade 5 in 1 knife to slice and pry along the seam
..L.T.A
Lee Stockwell
FOJL
NN used it by the 5 gallon bucket. High temperature Permatex.
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
Just exhaust gasket sealer/maker. Just specific high temp silicone
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
How many fittings split open?
Living The Dream
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Got it!
dealtimeman
Everyday is Saturday.
How many breaks?
Living The Dream
Member
Can only find the one. Bringing it to a shop on Monday. Hopefully they can fix and pressure test.
