The Times Are A-Changin'

[tcdepot]

I wrote a little blog post on our website about change and the new HydraMaster xDrive:

http://tcdepot.com/the-times-are-a-changin/

It seems like in this industry more than others, individuals have a hard time with change. I've had customers who have tried the same exact product that was private labeled in a different bottle and said it wasn't as good as the product he was used to. It's a very interesting quirk in our industry, and I really think HydraMaster is making a machine that is going to change this industry.

I was also able to work in Bob Dylan into the blog post, so you should check it out for that reason alone.

Matt Stein
The Cleaner's Depot

 

[Pioneer Floorcare]

What is the retail price?

 

[DJCarpetCleaning]

I heard the xdrive has a hefty 60k price tag, not including the van. Any truth to that?

If so they are changing the game alright, pricing themself into irrelevance

 

[Jim Pemberton]

I wrote a little blog post on our website about change and the new HydraMaster xDrive:
http://tcdepot.com/the-times-are-a-changin/

Very well worded explanation and message. Thank you for sharing it with us.

 

[Zee]

If it is 60 grand plus the van.


Nice knowing you..

For 80 grand a guy can possibly set up TWO nice vans, with equal or better performance slide-ins.

 

[tcdepot]

I heard the xdrive has a hefty 60k price tag, not including the van. Any truth to that?

I don't think the price has been completely finalized yet, but I believe it's going to be closer to that 60k with the van included.

 

[Jim Pemberton]

DJCarpetCleaning said: ↑
I heard the xdrive has a hefty 60k price tag, not including the van. Any truth to that?
I don't think the price has been completely finalized yet, but I believe it's going to be closer to that 60k with the van included.

An "old school salesman" who I knew when I was a young man would have said this:

"Is the thought of it being 60 grand plus the van your only objection? Really? I mean....are you sure?

If they guy said: "Heck yeah that's my only problem...that's way too much!"

He'd then say: "If I can get you a van and unit for 60 grand, do I have an order?"

He got a lot of "hell no" comments from people with that aggressive approach to price objections, but he also closed a lot of sales.

I'm not sure how that would work in 2016, but I smile when I see price objections bandied about. Mike just loved to get it down to "just one thing".

 

[dgardner]

I guess I don't understand the added benefit to the cleaner that justifies such a large price tag....

Can someone explain?

 

[FB7777]

On the surface from what little I have seen, the X drive is a possible solution to a future problem if and when Chevy no longer allows driveshaft through fire wall installation

Nothing revolutionary , power transfer from a running van is old technology.

 

[Mikey P]

Btw..


The Xdrive will be at Nashville..


Thanks for posting Matt!

 

[Joel D]

I've been very curious about this. Very interesting idea.

 

[Johnny]

Our industry is resistant to change? How do you account for the meteoric acceptance of new extraction tools: REs, CBRs, Zippers, etc.?

Seems to me that Hydramaster is just adapting to the new limited van platforms, which is cool. Only time will tell whether the X-thing is better or worse than Bawb's Steam Genie in a church van. You're criticizing our industry for being resistant to an unproven system?

Ps. Computerized control is a good thing?

 

[dgardner]

Ps. Computerized control is a good thing?

....says Johnny using his computerized smartphone, driving his computerized van, while sitting at a computer controlled traffic light, as an aircraft flies overhead on (computer controlled) autopilot. Face it, computers are probably not just a passing fad....

 

[Nate The Great]

....says Johnny using his computerized smartphone, driving his computerized van, while sitting at a computer controlled traffic light, as an aircraft flies overhead on (computer controlled) autopilot. Face it, computers are probably not just a passing fad....

Rage against the machine!!

 

[Johnny]

Accidently hit the delete bar while editing for syntax. Admin, feel free to make my post reappear, if you are so inclined.

Who is going to clean carpet after the EMP hits? Vawter.

 

[dgardner]

Since the EMP will take out the van anyway, the industry will be overrun with portys hauled around by guys on bicycles....

 

[Johnny]

Since the EMP will take out the van anyway, the industry will be overrun with portys hauled around by guys on bicycles....

Not all vans. And some portys are chip-controlled.

 

[Johnny]

Admittedly, my '66 Mustang runs better with electronic ignition. But I've had to replace the chip twice within the past year, at $140 a pop. Sometimes won't restart after shutting down. Very inconvenient. Would be even more inconvenient for a truckmount. Glad I kept the original distributor.

 

[Papa John]

with the SS 370 being the biggest seller I think the manufacturers are failing to understand the demographics of carpet cleaners.-- most cleaners are "price-shoppers"

Most cleaners want an inexpensive machine-- that is "good enough". Most cleaners are not "Size whores" like I have been in the past.
Most of our jobs are about 125ft from the TM and we rarely go dual wand--

A prospect/ customer has rarely asked about our equipment.

The Xdrive isn't a true electric TM because it still needs the van to be running== burning up fuel..

I think the future is in the Slide in TMs-- and PTO's will go by by as Van's get more expensive or PTO unfriendly.

 

[Johnny]

Can the Xdrive plug into grid power? Is the electric drive motor DC or AC?

 

[NobleCarpetCleaners]

Squirt, Suck.....Dump, yep times are changing

 

[Cleanworks]

what we need is hydrogen fuel cell to run electric motor and let's burn hydrogen in something like a lg heater.

 

[Spurlington]

Since the EMP will take out the van anyway, the industry will be overrun with portys hauled around by guys on bicycles....

 

[Spurlington]

Chevy no longer allows driveshaft through fire wall installation

I wonder if running a belt thru the floor (instead of the fire wall) to a pulley mounted on a drive shaft would work. Or maybe an additional drive shaft.

 

[FB7777]

I anticipate its popularity in line with the Edsel

 

[Mikey P]

Oh come on, at least give it the respect that the Tucker got..




I love my Transit so I'm looking forward to trying it

 

[FB7777]

Didn't mean to " Torpedo" the xDrive ( BMW is laughing right now btw )

Hopefully for Hydramasters sake, their Tucker isn't overpriced and grossly undersold

 

[Larry Cobb]

Thanks, Matt for the info . . .

As a builder of some Electric TM's, I would like some clarification on how the X-drive is 100 times the power of the Mytee ETM, which has equivalent vacuum to a #33 blower, General pump @ 900 PSI, 35 GPM Pump-Out and HX from the Van cooling system.

That would mean it FAR outperforms the AeroTech, Mikey.

I don't think so !!

 

[Cleanworks]

I wonder if running a belt thru the floor (instead of the fire wall) to a pulley mounted on a drive shaft would work. Or maybe an additional drive shaft.

That's how it used to be done. Power take off from the drive shaft. We're going back in time

 

[Nate The Great]

That's how it used to be done. Power take off from the drive shaft. We're going back in time

What was once old is now new again.. Except for @Desk Jockey , fookers a fossil...